The messiah is almost here

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Huh? No...

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dfw69 said:

No not yet ..but you got me studying and searching…

Could Jesus real Hebrew name be
YashaYah? Yahs savior?

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Are you trying to say Yeshayah or Yeshayahu?

dfw69 said:

Yahs deliverer give me that name in suffix

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dfw69 said:

I’m trying to find yahs savior or savior of yah in suffix with yahs name in it

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Then it would end with yah or yahu like Yeshayahu

dfw69 said:

I can not take that name on as being correct and in my heart I don’t believe it’s correct.. I must follow what I believe Is correct

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Well YeHoshua or Yeshua IS correct...you can make up any name you want to, lots of people do it! It won't be correct though...

dfw69 said:

I have to follow what my heart believes for God knows my heart

I don’t condemn those that believe in other names ..don’t get me wrong

I believe Yasha Yah is just and understanding that his children were deceived pronouncing his name wrong


But thanks ..peace

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Well you would be wrong...Shalom

dfw69 said:

Am I wrong by proclaiming Yahusha ha Mashyach?

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another made up name?

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Yes I meant the Yanuka...people are reading too much into this...as I said before, he was not born in Bethlehem

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The Jews don't believe that the messiah has to be born in Bethlehem.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

It's about signs...the Nations are more interested in Torah...red heifers....etc...Messiah is coming.

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Do you mean Jesus is coming (in the second coming), or do you mean the Jewish Messiah is coming (for the first time)?

Douggg said:

The Jews don't believe that the messiah has to be born in Bethlehem.

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Really? Which sect or you think all sects?

Jesse Dornfeld said:

Do you mean Jesus is coming (in the second coming), or do you mean the Jewish Messiah is coming (for the first time)?

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yes

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Really? Which sect or you think all sects?

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Sects that argue Jesus is not the messiah - which is all of them.

dfw69 said:

If the messiah is almost here then the Messianic age is about to begin …

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The Bible reveals the "sign" associated with the Lord's Return
Jesus cannot return (because Scripture cannot be broken) until this "sign" is fulfilled in history.

2Th 2:1-8
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and
exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And THEN shall that Wicked be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

This passage teaches that before the Lord Returns - there is a great "falling away" within the "Body of Christ".
At that time, he who now restrains (the Holy Spirit) will be "taken out of the way". That is at the end of the
Great Commission... at the "End of the Age" [Mat 28:18-20]. After the Last Saint is "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]
The Bible is crystal clear about this: The Great Tribulation/Revelation Beast CAN NOT BEGIN
until the Last Saint has been "sealed" (saved).

Mat 28:18-20
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,
even unto the End of the Age. Amen.

However, after the "End of the Age" (after the Great Commission) when the Last Saint has been "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]
THEN Satan is loosened from his Bottomless Pit to RULE during his "Little Season" which is also shown as (1) the Revelation Beast
and (2) the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] and (3) Daniel's Fourth Kingdom and (4) the RULE of the man
called the "Little Horn" [Dan 7] and the "False Prophet" [Rev 19:20] and the "Man of Sin" [2 Thess 2:3]... the man commonly
known as THE Anti-Christ

So... if someone is predicting the Lord's imminent Return... they must FIRST show WHERE the great "falling away" occurred
and WHEN the Last Saint is "sealed" and the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way" and WHO is this "Man of Sin" that is "revealed"
during the great "falling away".

Can anyone show these things?
Then they should not be talking about an imminent Return.

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Douggg said:

Sects that argue Jesus is not the messiah - which is all of them.

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I don't think that is true...however, remember David was Moshiakh as was Cyrus (a gentile)...it just means "annointed". Any Jewish King must be from Judah. Was being born in Bethlehem a messianic prophecy within Judaism? If you answer yes, then you are wrong...

From a Jewish website:

Micah 5:1 states: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrath, who are little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of you shall come forth to Me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, from ancient days."

Is it true that this is a prediction that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem?

Was there a prediction that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem?​

Answer: This verse refers to the Messiah, a descendant of David. Since David came from Bethlehem, Micah's prophecy speaks of Bethlehem as the Messiah's place of origin.

It is interesting that Mathew says regarding Bethlehem:

But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.''

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Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I don't think that is true...however, remember David was Moshiakh as was Cyrus (a gentile)...it just means "annointed". Any Jewish King must be from Judah. Was being born in Bethlehem a messianic prophecy within Judaism? If you answer yes, then you are wrong...

From a Jewish website:

Micah 5:1 states: "But you, Bethlehem Ephrath, who are little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of you shall come forth to Me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, from ancient days."

Is it true that this is a prediction that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem?

Was there a prediction that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem?​

Answer: This verse refers to the Messiah, a descendant of David. Since David came from Bethlehem, Micah's prophecy speaks of Bethlehem as the Messiah's place of origin.

It is interesting that Mathew says regarding Bethlehem:

But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.''

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The Jews (Judaism) believe that the messiah has to be of the tribe of Judah.

On the issue that the messiah must be born in Bethlehem, yes, as Christians we know that to be the case.

But to Jews (Judaism) they disagree that the messiah must be born in Bethlehem.

Why don't you go over to a site like MessiahTruth

or Aish.com

- both Judaism sites. And ask them if the messiah has to be born in Bethlehem.