THE MEANING OF LUKE 16:16

[Dan Perez]

Luke 16:16 reads ;
# 1 THE // HO is a Definite Article , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular .

# 2 LAW // NOMOS , also in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 3 AND // KAI , is a conjunction

# 4 THE // THE is a DEFINITE ARTICLE , is a Nominative Case , in the Plural

# 5 PROPHETS // PROPHETE , in the Nominative Case , in the Plural

# 6 WERE was Added

# 7 UNTIL // HEOS , is in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 8 John // IOANNES , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 9 SINCE // APO is a Preposition

# 10 THAT TIME // TOTE , is an Adverb

# 11 THE // HO , a definite Article , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 12 KINGDOM // BASILEIA , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 13 OF GOD // THEOS , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 14 , IS PREACHED // EUANGELIZO , in the Present Tense , Passive Voice , Indicative Mood ,

# 15 AND // KAI is a conjunction

# 16 EVERY MAN // PAS , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 17 PRESSETH // BIAZO , in the Present Tense , in the Middle Voice , in the Indicative Mood , means you better believe it , check Matt 11:12 !!

# 18 INTO // EIS , preposition

# 19 IT // AUTOS , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular .

IT seem that the Law and the Prophets only lasted , not long after John was beheaded

And Acts 28:25-28 proves that the Law of Moses and WATER BAPTISM , ended with John .

Your thoughts as too number 17 .

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Luke 16:16 reads ;
# 1 THE // HO is a Definite Article , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular .

# 2 LAW // NOMOS , also in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 3 AND // KAI , is a conjunction

# 4 THE // THE is a DEFINITE ARTICLE , is a Nominative Case , in the Plural

# 5 PROPHETS // PROPHETE , in the Nominative Case , in the Plural

# 6 WERE was Added

# 7 UNTIL // HEOS , is in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 8 John // IOANNES , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 9 SINCE // APO is a Preposition

# 10 THAT TIME // TOTE , is an Adverb

# 11 THE // HO , a definite Article , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 12 KINGDOM // BASILEIA , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 13 OF GOD // THEOS , in the Genitive Case , in the Singular

# 14 , IS PREACHED // EUANGELIZO , in the Present Tense , Passive Voice , Indicative Mood ,

# 15 AND // KAI is a conjunction

# 16 EVERY MAN // PAS , in the Nominative Case , in the Singular

# 17 PRESSETH // BIAZO , in the Present Tense , in the Middle Voice , in the Indicative Mood , means you better believe it , check Matt 11:12 !!

# 18 INTO // EIS , preposition

# 19 IT // AUTOS , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the Singular .

IT seem that the Law and the Prophets only lasted , not long after John was beheaded

And Acts 28:25-28 proves that the Law of Moses and WATER BAPTISM , ended with John .

Your thoughts as too number 17 .

dan p

Water baptism unto repentance from sin was not part of the Mosaic Law.
Why do you lump them together ?

The Law and the prophets told of the coming Messiah.
After Jesus was raised from the dead, and ascended to heaven, the Law and prophet's were fulfilled.
Now we are to water baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of past sins.
And that baptism does more than merely remit past sins.

 

[Dan Perez]

Water baptism unto repentance from sin was not part of the Mosaic Law.
Why do you lump them together ?

The Law and the prophets told of the coming Messiah.
After Jesus was raised from the dead, and ascended to heaven, the Law and prophet's were fulfilled.
Now we are to water baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of past sins.
And that baptism does more than merely remit past sins.

You are right about Moses , but the Greek word BAPTISM is used in 1 Cor 10:2 and reads , and ALL were BAPTIZED unto

Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA .

So how were the Thousands of Jew BAPIZED , since the Greek text doe NOT say that they were Baptized in WATER // HODOR .

And how were Israel BAPTIZED in the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

Many never notice that there is Moses , the CLOUD and the SEA , making the number THREE ?

So what does the # 1 MEAN ?

And what does the # 2 MEAN ??

And what does the number # 3 MEAN ?

And the # 4 is the EGYPTIANS that followed , Israel ?

And if you want to know what NUMBERS mean , there are books on NUMBERS that can be purchased .

Just asking !!

dan p

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

There is no special word "baptized". It's just "washed". Souls among all of those people were washed, improved, purified, made holy, in all of those events.

 

[Hoping2]

You are right about Moses , but the Greek word BAPTISM is used in 1 Cor 10:2 and reads , and ALL were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA .

Yes, as all those people took part in what Moses took part in.
They were, in essence, one.

So how were the Thousands of Jew BAPIZED , since the Greek text doe NOT say that they were Baptized in WATER // HODOR .

It doesn't need to state how they were baptized.
Only water baptism, now in the name of Jesus Christ, could remit past sins.

And how were Israel BAPTIZED in the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

"Immersion" into the events Moses was partaking in.

Many never notice that there is Moses , the CLOUD and the SEA , making the number THREE ?
So what does the # 1 MEAN ?
And what does the # 2 MEAN ??
And what does the number # 3 MEAN ?
And the # 4 is the EGYPTIANS that followed , Israel ?
And if you want to know what NUMBERS mean , there are books on NUMBERS that can be purchased .

I put no importance to numerology.
I find that it only distracts man from more important things.

 

[Dan Perez]

There is no special word "baptized". It's just "washed". Souls among all of those people were washed, improved, purified, made holy, in all of those events.

Just asking about 1 Peter 3:21 where it says where unto even BAPTISM doth now save us and verse 20 eight souls saved by WATER

And in Acts 1:5 for John indeed baptized with WATER // HODOR !!

Your thoughts ?

dan

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

This is a symbol of the baptism that saves you now—not as a washing away of dirt from the body, but as the appeal of a good conscience to God—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I Peter 3:21

 

[Dan Perez]

This is a symbol of the baptism that saves you now—not as a washing away of dirt from the body, but as the appeal of a good conscience to God—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I Peter 3:21

And n if anyone checks the Greek word BAPTISM in 1 Peter 3:21 , you see that Greek word translated BAPTISM is treally the Greek word BAPTISMA , READLY !!

In Eph 4:5 it reds ONE Lord , ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS , BAPTISMA , just check the Greek text , before anyone replies .

This Greek word BAPTISMA is used 22 times from Matthew through 1 Peter 3:21 ,

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

This is a symbol of the baptism that saves you now—not as a washing away of dirt from the body, but as the appeal of a good conscience to God—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I Peter 3:21

That is the verse that got me converted.
I wanted that good conscience before God, more than anything.
I got baptized into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, that very night !

 

[Dan Perez]

That is the verse that got me converted.
I wanted that good conscience before God, more than anything.
I got baptized into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, that very night !

Just asking for a verse where you were BAPTIZED into Christ and into his death ?

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Just asking for a verse where you were BAPTIZED into Christ and into his death ?

dan p

OK, Dan.
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:..." (Rom 6:3-4)

 

[Dan Perez]

OK, Dan.
"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:..." (Rom 6:3-4)

Why not check the Greek text on Rom 6:4 , which reads Therefore , we were BURIED together with Him THOUGH this BAPTISMA , not BAPTIZED //BAPTIZO as only BAPTISMA is in the Greek TEXT and BAPTISMA is used from Matthew 3:7

where the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his BAPTISMA , Through Eph 4:5 One // HEIS , BAPRISMA and Just check the Greek text and see ,

Check LUE LETTER BIBLE and see !!

Used 22 Times from Matthew though 1 Peter 3:21 .

So how were are BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST Jesus and were BAPTIZED into his DEATH ??


dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Why not check the Greek text on Rom 6:4 ,

I have found that those who depend on lengthy Greek translations for their doctrines, have no interest in serving God.
Adhering to the English of the KJV of the bible has kept me in the light for many years.

which reads Therefore , we were BURIED together with Him THOUGH this BAPTISMA , not BAPTIZED //BAPTIZO as only BAPTISMA is in the Greek TEXT and BAPTISMA is used from Matthew 3:7

where the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his BAPTISMA , Through Eph 4:5 One // HEIS , BAPRISMA and Just check the Greek text and see ,

Check LUE LETTER BIBLE and see !!

Used 22 Times from Matthew though 1 Peter 3:21 .

So how were are BAPTIZED INTO CHRIST Jesus and were BAPTIZED into his DEATH ??


dan p

I was water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and into Christ and into His death, burial, and resurrection.
Just like Rom 6:3-5 says.

How were you "immersed" into Christ and into His death ?

 

[Dan Perez]

I have found that those who depend on lengthy Greek translations for their doctrines, have no interest in serving God.
Adhering to the English of the KJV of the bible has kept me in the light for many years.

I was water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and into Christ and into His death, burial, and resurrection.
Just like Rom 6:3-5 says.

How were you "immersed" into Christ and into His death ?

# 1 And where is the Greek word IMMERSION in the Geek text ?

And attended a SOUTHERN BAPTIST church for mean years , where I met my wife to be and also believe STRONGLY

on OSAS , which I still believe and was also WATER BAPTIZED and also was a DEACON !!

And we had a new Pastor and he had a a Pastor friend that he grew up and would , always come and meet with him

and park under a tree and say to his friend , CONVINCE me that WATER BAPTISM is Not for TODAY !!

Here is what some NEVER check , the Greek Text and Rom 6:3-5 really means !!

Verse 3 says , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED into Christ Jesus were BAPTIZED INTO His Death ?

Question then is How were you BAPTIZED M into His Death ??

Then verse 4 , says this , Therefore , we were BURIED together with Him through this BAPTISMA and this Greek word is in

the Greek text , into the DEATH !!

Eph 4:5 says One Lord , ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS , means ONEEEEEEEEEEEE , BAPTISMA .

BAPTISMA is the HOL SPIRIT , PERIOD , Check Acts 1:5 .

Have more and this there n is a lot more and if you are not BAPTIZED for the DEAD , 1 Cor 15:29 you will never

be RESURRECTED !!

And many times I do use some long explanations of the Greek Text so I will not look for a reply !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

# 1 And where is the Greek word IMMERSION in the Geek text ?

I know nothing about Geek texts. ?
My Strong's Concordance defines 'baptizo' as immerse, dip, fully whelm.

And attended a SOUTHERN BAPTIST church for mean years , where I met my wife to be and also believe STRONGLY on OSAS ,

We differ on that doctrine.

which I still believe and was also WATER BAPTIZED and also was a DEACON !!

OK, so where are you going with this ?

And we had a new Pastor and he had a a Pastor friend that he grew up and would , always come and meet with him and park under a tree and say to his friend , CONVINCE me that WATER BAPTISM is Not for TODAY !!

Here is what some NEVER check , the Greek Text and Rom 6:3-5 really means !!
Verse 3 says , Or are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED into Christ Jesus were BAPTIZED INTO His Death ?
Question then is How were you BAPTIZED M into His Death ??

I was baptized into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

Then verse 4 , says this , Therefore , we were BURIED together with Him through this BAPTISMA and this Greek word is in the Greek text , into the DEATH !!

Certainly.

Eph 4:5 says One Lord , ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS , means ONEEEEEEEEEEEE , BAPTISMA .
BAPTISMA is the HOL SPIRIT , PERIOD , Check Acts 1:5 .

What do think than about Heb. 6:2's doctrine of baptisms...plural baptisms ?

Have more and this there n is a lot more and if you are not BAPTIZED for the DEAD , 1 Cor 15:29 you will never be RESURRECTED !!

You will have to explain what you think baptism for the dead is, as it is not taught in scripture.

And many times I do use some long explanations of the Greek Text so I will not look for a reply !!

I don't need explanations of Greek to see what Paul, or any prophet, intends.

 

[Dan Perez]

I know nothing about Geek texts. ?
My Strong's Concordance defines 'baptizo' as immerse, dip, fully whelm.

We differ on that doctrine.

OK, so where are you going with this ?

I was baptized into Christ, and into His death, burial, and resurrection, by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

Certainly.

What do think than about Heb. 6:2's doctrine of baptisms...plural baptisms ?

You will have to explain what you think baptism for the dead is, as it is not taught in scripture.

I don't need explanations of Greek to see what Paul, or any prophet, intends.

Here what I see in Hebrews 6:2 !!

# 1 Hebrews was written to Israel , Period , by Paul !!

# 2 Hebrews 9:10 will explain the kind of BAPTISMS that Israel PRACTICED .

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Here what I see in Hebrews 6:2 !!
# 1 Hebrews was written to Israel , Period , by Paul !!

Can you show me what makes you think Paul wrote Hebrews ?

# 2 Hebrews 9:10 will explain the kind of BAPTISMS that Israel PRACTICED .

I do not equate the OT "washings" with baptism using water.
One can wash a car, but to baptize it, the car must be submerged.

 

[Dan Perez]

Can you show me what makes you think Paul wrote Hebrews ?

I do not equate the OT "washings" with baptism using water.
One can wash a car, but to baptize it, the car must be submerged.

Will you write a verse where Paul uses a Greek word for submersion ?

In Heb 13:25 Paul mentions Timothy a co-worker of Paul

Paul was instructed is all aspects of the Law of Moses Gal 1:14

Paul had a ministry to the children of Israel , Acts 9:15

Paul was n the ONLY writer to quote Hab 2:4 , in the New Testament , , three times , in Rom 1:17 , Gal 3:11 , Heb 10:38

Paul is the ONLY writer in the New Testament to write about the PASSING away of the Law of Moses , the Old Covenant

in Heb 8:13

And 2 Cor 3:13-15 ,and how are Jews saved today ??

dan

 

[Hoping2]

Will you write a verse where Paul uses a Greek word for submersion ?

No problem...though technically it is "immersion".
Rom 6:3-4..."Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
Gal 3:27..."For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."
1 Cor 1:13-16..."Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name."
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1 Cor 12:13..."For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

In Heb 13:25 Paul mentions Timothy a co-worker of Paul

It must be some other verse, as 25 says nothing like that.

Paul was instructed is all aspects of the Law of Moses Gal 1:14

Yep, a Pharisee.

Paul had a ministry to the children of Israel , Acts 9:15

Yep, though not limited to just the Jews.

Paul was n the ONLY writer to quote Hab 2:4 , in the New Testament , , three times , in Rom 1:17 , Gal 3:11 , Heb 10:38

OK.

Paul is the ONLY writer in the New Testament to write about the PASSING away of the Law of Moses , the Old Covenant

Yes, thanks be to God.

in Heb 8:13
And 2 Cor 3:13-15 ,and how are Jews saved today ??

Both Jew and Gentile are saved the same way...by faith in all Jesus taught, and by what the apostles taught.
Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor s yourself.
Repent of sin, and get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Endure faithfully until the end.
Do those things, and you will be raised to eternal life at the coming of Jesus Christ to destroy the world.

 

[Dan Perez]

No problem...though technically it is "immersion".
Rom 6:3-4..."Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
Gal 3:27..."For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."
1 Cor 1:13-16..."Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name."
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
1 Cor 12:13..."For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

It must be some other verse, as 25 says nothing like that.

Yep, a Pharisee.

Yep, though not limited to just the Jews.

OK.

Yes, thanks be to God.

Both Jew and Gentile are saved the same way...by faith in all Jesus taught, and by what the apostles taught.
Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor s yourself.
Repent of sin, and get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Endure faithfully until the end.
Do those things, and you will be raised to eternal life at the coming of Jesus Christ to destroy the world.

# 1 Will you show a verse How jews are saved today ?

# 2 And who are the apostles that TAUGHT ?? The Twelve OR was it Paul ??

# 3 Do you have a verse where Gentiles are to be baptized ??

# 4 For the REMISSION of Sins ??

# 5 verse where the BODY of Christ has to ENDURE to the END ??

# 6 Verse where bthe BODY of Christ will be RAISED , where b Paul says THAT ??

dan p