the 'M' Word

[thenewageriseth]

Hello, there. I'm a new member of CF and I wanted to let you all know:
Thank you. I have to admit that it started happening before I turned 14. It was something, that in the beginning, didn't seem too bad, but then as I grew older, I became aware about how serious it seemed and attempted to become a born-again Christian the 1st time around. That was in 10th grade. It was very addictive. But I'm glad that I ran across these posts. To tell you all the truth, I thought that I was losing...my...natural...mind!

But, now that I've read the posts about it being sexual tension and a result of curiousity and all, maybe I can calm that beast inside that was trying to eat me inside...the beast of guilt...I can be changed, no doubt. I have a cousin who lives in Peoria, Il. and I want to be like her, or just like her. She's a Baptist and very spiritual. I thank you all for your posts...I'm so glad I joined...maybe now I can be at peace...

P.S. I've totally learned things that I didn't know before, from reading those posts!

 

[Abuna]

yeah im pretty new here to and this site is great for learning new things. but sometimes with so many options of tops to read i get over loaded. but id rather have an overload rather then not enough. Amen

 

[Johnnz]

The awful guilt and feeling such a terrible Christian because you did not just stop is a heavy burden for many young people.

Holiness is a journey, and it is the keeping on and developing our relationship with Jesus that really transforms us. But, this is a lifelong process.

John
NZ

 

[thenewageriseth]

The awful guilt and feeling such a terrible Christian because you did not just stop is a heavy burden for many young people.

Holiness is a journey, and it is the keeping on and developing our relationship with Jesus that really transforms us. But, this is a lifelong process.

John
NZ

Yeah, I know...I have to stop feeling so low in self-esteem...at least now I have more knowledge on the subject, without being insulted, actually. Because sometimes there are people that I may hear on the radio or TV laugh about M*****bation, like it's some kind of joke.

 

[vinc]

IMHO Masturbation is not a sin. The word "Masturbation" is not present in the Bible. Neither is there an account of any person committing the act of masturbation in the Bible Nor is there any person in the Bible being condemned for committing the act of Masturbation.

Sometimes it happens unknowingly due to excessive sexual hormones or sexual tension which cannot be controlled.

Religious people and religious leaders who consider it as a sin, condemn it and thereby making guilty everyone who indulge in it. It is high time people learn to understand the Truth about Masturbation. There is no need to feel depressed and guilty about it.

I think it is a harmless personal act which harms no one in particular.

 

[Ave Maria]

IMHO Masturbation is not a sin. The word "Masturbation" is not present in the Bible. Neither is there an account of any person committing the act of masturbation in the Bible Nor is there any person in the Bible being condemned for committing the act of Masturbation.

Sometimes it happens unknowingly due to excessive sexual hormones or sexual tension which cannot be controlled.

Religious people and religious leaders who consider it as a sin, condemn it and thereby making guilty everyone who indulge in it. It is high time people learn to understand the Truth about Masturbation. There is no need to feel depressed and guilty about it.

I think it is a harmless personal act which harms no one in particular.

I totally agree. And besides, there are even health benefits to it.

 

[thenewageriseth]

Thanx. After joining CF and learning that I don't have to be ashamed, I shall relax. And try to go on with my life.

Bo Peep

 

[Mashley]

I personally feel like it is wrong, because of the guilt associated with doing it. I felt/feel convicted when I do it, therefore I consider it wrong.

 

[Agent Clancy]

I totally agree. And besides, there are even health benefits to it.

What are they?

In addition, one need not be ashamed as long as they desire forgiveness, but it my opinion it is a sin. Only because it violates the intension for sexual behavior that God set: that sex be productive (procreation) and unitive (relationship-building). Masturbation is neither of these, and it does harm someone: the person that did it, as any other sin would. Not that mean any offense by this, but it, like fornication or theft or ny type of sin, does require reconciliation.

 

[Personal Jesus]

If Masturbation is evil...then I guess I'm the devil.

 

[L.East08]

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[Beef]

To the person who said it wasnt a sin- If you are lusting after someone in your mind to help you touch then you are sinning. Plain and simple.

I am not condemming any one becuase I also struggle with all the things associated with lust...but the facts are facts...

 

[invisible trousers]

The health benefits she's talking about are the lowered risk of prostate cancer.

but it my opinion it is a sin. Only because it violates the intension for sexual behavior that God set: that sex be productive (procreation) and unitive (relationship-building). Masturbation is neither of these, and it does harm someone: the person that did it, as any other sin would.

Prove it. Could you also show how masturbation harms people? I suppose you could make some bizarre physical argument (ie too much masturbation causes chafed skin) but I don't think that's what you mean. All those other sins like adultery, lying, coveting, etc, actively harm other people while masturbation does not.

I personally feel like it is wrong, because of the guilt associated with doing it. I felt/feel convicted when I do it, therefore I consider it wrong.

Well hey if it causes you to stumble in any way then don't do it. I understand and respect that; just realize that many other people touch without any problem.

 

[PetertheRock]

Masturbation is a sin. For Catholics may be a mortal sin. The thing is for a sin to be a mortal sin the sin has to be of grave matter (which sexual sins are), it has to be done with full knowledge and it has to be with deliberate consent of the sinner.

This is the Church's teachings on why masturbation is a sin...

<LI>Masturbation—"Masturbation is the deliberate stimulation of the sexual organs in order to derive sexual pleasure" (CCC 2352). The Church teaches that sex has two main purposes that must be sought in the marriage act: sex is for reproduction of children within a valid marriage, and it is a loving, unifying act between husband and wife. Masturbation violates both aspects of the natural law and is thus a grave sin.
However, I have gone to confession for this sin and my priest has told me that as long as I am trying to stop Jesus will give me grace because He knows what's in my heart. A lot of people are addicted to the masturbation sin. I know I am because I can't stop even when I want to. I go a few days and I fall back into it. But I trust that if I continue to pray and try to make an honest effort to overcome this sin Jesus will forgive me for the times I fall.

 

[TheMainException]

To the person who said it wasnt a sin- If you are lusting after someone in your mind to help you touch then you are sinning. Plain and simple.

I am not condemming any one becuase I also struggle with all the things associated with lust...but the facts are facts...

Very true....but if you are just hot as ever and need to get it out...and you aren't even really thinking of anyone...go ahead...there is nothing wrong aabout that since there really isn't lust involved..and if there was...that is past...and you can't do much about it now....

 

[Vilnius]

Thanx. After joining CF and learning that I don't have to be ashamed, I shall relax. And try to go on with my life.

Bo Peep

A great spiritual book on the topic, mostly for girls is: My Beautiful feeling" available from quietwaterspub.com

I highly recommend it.


Praise God

 

[janny108]

The health benefits she's talking about are the lowered risk of prostate cancer.



Prove it. Could you also show how masturbation harms people? I suppose you could make some bizarre physical argument (ie too much masturbation causes chafed skin) but I don't think that's what you mean. All those other sins like adultery, lying, coveting, etc, actively harm other people while masturbation does not.



Well hey if it causes you to stumble in any way then don't do it. I understand and respect that; just realize that many other people touch without any problem.

Not indefinitely I would not think.It's possible to do something for so long your mind gets seared about it, then it would not bother some people. The bible tells us we can sin against our own body. Maybe it appears like no one else is being harmed, but we do harm to ourselves and our relationship with the Lord.
Jan

 

[apologia25]

Thanx. After joining CF and learning that I don't have to be ashamed, I shall relax. And try to go on with my life.

Bo Peep

dear friend,
I do not write this to weigh you down again. But ask yourself a questio do you feel shame because the world tells you it is wrong or the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The devils wants to keep you in sexual bondage. What you are doing now will interfere with many things. for example what happens when you marry will you continue you may say no but what if? what if your spouse catches you. I want to ask you a question when you do the big "m" what do you think about? Are they good thoughts? Isn't the big m actually worshipping the idol of sexual pleasure? Would you do it with Jesus in the room? The word spoken by the other person are very cautionless specially since young eyes and Christians are present. Oral sex is not in the bible does it make it right? The world's trend is if it feels good do it, some other people are following the world. Does the bible say that "M" is healthy for you no because it doesn't talk about it. So where is this idea coming from, Doctors who don't believe in God nor sin nor absolute truth. The bible says that love of the world is enmity with God. The bible tells us in Heb 12:1 to throw off every weight and hindrance and run the race. Is the big M a hindrance to you? you bet it is as it is a sin that can consume a person. This is not to make you feel bad but a dose of real truth

 

[Marie D]

The health benefits she's talking about are the lowered risk of prostate cancer.



Prove it. Could you also show how masturbation harms people? I suppose you could make some bizarre physical argument (ie too much masturbation causes chafed skin) but I don't think that's what you mean. All those other sins like adultery, lying, coveting, etc, actively harm other people while masturbation does not.



Well hey if it causes you to stumble in any way then don't do it. I understand and respect that; just realize that many other people touch without any problem.

I don't want to offend or upset the people who do this thing, but IMHO the claim that M hs health benefits is very weak. It's true that men sometimes have to release fluid to keep things 'in working order' but this happens unintentionally in their sleep when it's needed. IMHO this isn't a sin because there's no evil intent involved.

So I don't think a man who does it deliberately can say he's doing it for his health not for his selfish pleasure. And as for girls and women, there's no excuse at all!

I don't think M is physically harmful, just spiritually so. It encourages lust and objectifying people. Also I think it could be like drugs - the more pleasure you get from something, the more you come to crave that thing and the more extreme the 'high' you need to satisfy that urge. Some people say that M is harmless and stops them from wanting premarital sex but IMHO the reverse is the case, they're more likely to be tempted into that kind of thing if they're weak enough to get involved in pleasuring themselves in this way.

 

[Chajara]

I think what's unhealthy is that people are so worked up over the word "masturbation" that they can't type it. It just seems like an unhealthy attitude toward sex to me.

And someone asked "What if your spouse catches you" and to that I say so what? If my mate walked in on me the conversation would probably be along the lines of "About time you got back. I got tired of waiting." And then I'd stop what I was doing and invite my partner to take part in the pleasure, which is how it should be.