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The point of Paul's message in Romans 14 goes right over your head. Paul is using food law as one *example* of the message, so it does not need to mention every law specifically to get the point across.
As i said, the Lord Himself is our sabbath rest, and until someone can prove otherwise i keep believing that. To you i am forsaking sabbath rest but from my perspective i am not, i have entered into it.
Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”Really? and I have provided scripture and you have provided none?
Just some scriptures linking both the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT scriptures and within CHAPTER AND SCRIPTURE CONTEXT that define and connect to the meaning of GALATIONS 4:10 for your consideration.
GALATIANS 4:4-11 [4], But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, [5], To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. [6], And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. [7], Therefore you are no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ. [8], But then, when you knew not God, you did service unto them which by nature are no gods. [9], But now, after you have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn you again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? [10], You observe days, and months, and times, and years. [11], I am afraid for you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain.
Key scriptures...
GALATIANS 4:8 [8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? [10] YE OBSERVE DAYS, AND MONTHS, AND TIMES, AND YEARS. [11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Galatians 4 says nothing about God's 4th Commandment SEVENTH DAY SABBATH (Exodus 20:8-11). Its speaking of those who observe times.
DEUT.18 [9] When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, OR AN OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch,[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
The same thing goes on to this very day. Its speaking of the occult. Those who observe certain days by use of horoscopes (ASTROLOGY)?
2 CHRONICLES 33:3 [3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.[4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.[5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD.[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: ALSO HE OBSERVED TIMES, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger
Enchantments, witchcraft, familiar spirits, and wizards. Its speaking of the occult. Not following sabbath days.
LEVITICUS 19:26 [26] Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, NOR OBSERVE TIMES.[27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.[28] Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.[29] Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a harlot; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.[30] YE SHALL KEEP MY SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
I guess this scripture says it all. You shall not observe times BUT you will keep my sabbaths.
Hope this helps.
Perhaps he cannot comprehend because his heart is hardened in the way that he has accused everyone else.
Really? and all this time I thought I was providing God's WORD? Here let me post it for you again as I noticed you have provided no scripture but are simply saying things that have not been said....
Well I am glad that God is my judge and not you. God's WORD will be our judge come judgment day *John 12:47-48.
I might be missing something...I haven't read all your posts, but how do you know which laws are ceremonial, and which are moral laws?
and doesn't this make it pretty clear that the Sabbath is no longer necessary?:
…15And having disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. 17These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts it belongs to Christ.…
The reality of Sabbath is Christ, not a particular day of the week. Sabbath was just a shadow.Hi Loren nice to meet you again. Good question. The Shadow laws are from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT. These included all the ceremonial, levitical, ecclesiatical and civil laws, most of which pointed to Jesus as our true sacrifice and God's plan of salvation and the NEW COVENANT promise of a new heart to LOVE and Follow Jesus. COL 2 is discussing these MOSAIC shadow laws. Not the 10 commandments and God's 4th Commandment.
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There scriptures linked above show many of the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT scritpures for these shadow laws..
Hope this helps and thanks for the question. I will be back latter please feel free to leave a post and I will try to get to it when I can.
May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
What is it you think is not understood? Please make your case and let's discuss it with God's WORD? It is good to share God's WORD so that we all can have a closer walk with Jesus.
Apparently, they're making some distinction between the Mosaic law and the Ten Commandments. What I don't understand
Is where that distinction is made in scripture. The other thing I don't understand is how they can claim the law they do keep affects thier salvation, when it is so clear that salvation is only found it in Christ.
God's Ten Commandments are light (Proverbs 6:23; Isaiah 8:20), including the central commandment, the 4th (Exodus 20:8-11), and is never a shadow, and is never an ordinance, and never carnal, but spiritual (Romans 7:14).I might be missing something...I haven't read all your posts, but how do you know which laws are ceremonial, and which are moral laws?
and doesn't this make it pretty clear that the Sabbath is no longer necessary?:
…15And having disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a festival, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. 17These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts it belongs to Christ.…
You made it up, and have not a single verse that says that.As i said, the Lord Himself is our sabbath rest...
You need to add to God's word that which it doesn't say to suit your disobedience to God's clear and explicit commandment (Exodus 20:8-11). You imagined, not exegeted.... Paul is using food law as one *example* of the message, so it does not need to mention every law specifically to get the point across.
Apparently, they're making some distinction between the Mosaic law and the Ten Commandments. What I don't understand
Is where that distinction is made in scripture. The other thing I don't understand is how they can claim the law they do keep affects thier salvation, when it is so clear that salvation is only found it in Christ.
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