See, here’s the thing:What is clear is that the USA wanted a election that confirmed with electoral laws, and when conservatives lost, they wanted insurrection.
Noone was supporting rioters and looters.
it is not conservatives who are trying to make this a communist country!
That they’ve shifted so far to the Right that revolution seems inevitable to them, (the very antithesis of “conservatism”!), but they still see themselves as the downtrodden “good guys”.
Sure....they were just supporting the groups that were rioting and looting.
Conservatives are still conservatives.I can agree with that...I'm pretty sure it was Kamala who put out the whole "equality of outcomes" communist propaganda video
What makes you think they've shifted "so far to the right"?
I can't really think of any issues they've shifted substantially to the right on. Is it an ideological shift? If so....what do you think changed ideologically on the right?
Still not making your case here. I see several examples of individuals performing violent acts, but none of the organization, itself, specifically and unequivocally promoting violence.
But feel free to keep trying.
If I see an official statement from Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. that specifically says they promote violence, then I'll accept your claim that they promote violence. Otherwise, all you've got is your own opinion based on your own assumptions.
I can only go by the article you posted, where she said she was asked to not attend BLM events or speak on their behalf.
I'm not part of BLM, I can't speak for them, nor is it my responsibility to defend them. I leave it to them to speak for themselves.
Nah....I think I've pretty firmly established that you aren't basing your opinion on the evidence.
I've got multiple examples of BLM promoting violence.
Again, you aren't interested in evidence if the only evidence you'd accept is a signed confession.
I'm curious why you defend Black Lives Matter? Do you think the police are guilty of racism or brutality or the mistreatment of black people?
There's no official statement from BLM in the article so I don't know where you're getting this from.
Cool....I've quoted them supporting violence and looting.
Are we done since you aren't defending them anymore?
Conservatives are still conservatives.
There hasn't been any evidence.
You claim BLM promotes violence, but you haven't shown them specifically saying that.
No, you've provided examples of individuals committing violent acts. Nothing official from the organization explicitly promoting those acts.
I'll accept anything that actually shows BLM *snip*
I never defended them.
I'm just trying to figure out what you base your accusations on.
It's quite simple. Your party lost the election. Your party lost court appeals. Your party did not get the majority of electoral votes. Your party, ie MAGA supporters, committed insurrection resulting in several deaths, threats to public officers, and the humiliation of your country internationally. This abominable act occurred because they did not wish to follow constitutional law. They wanted to overthrow that which occurred through democratic processes, and those supporting it are traitors to their country.Nah....I think I've pretty firmly established that you aren't basing your opinion on the evidence.
I've got multiple examples of BLM promoting violence. Again, you aren't interested in evidence if the only evidence you'd accept is a signed confession.
I'm curious why you defend Black Lives Matter? Do you think the police are guilty of racism or brutality or the mistreatment of black people?
There's no official statement from BLM in the article so I don't know where you're getting this from.
Cool....I've quoted them supporting violence and looting.
Are we done since you aren't defending them anymore?
There's been a lot of evidence.
I said BLM commits/supports political violence.
I've given examples of BLM members, organizers and officials engaging in violence and the organization as a whole celebrating it as an achievement.
BLM leader: we'll "burn" the system down if U.S. won't give us what we want
There's a black lives matter leader promoting violence.
You're going to deny it like you did the dozen pieces of evidence I gave you before this one.
"I never defended them."
You have.
I haven't made any accusations....I've stated facts. Facts supported by evidence.
Not when you've utterly failed to show that I do. Otherwise it is just an underhanded bit of rhetoric, on par with despicable attempts like "have you stopped beating your wife yet".It's fair to question why you defend political violence.
Not when you've utterly failed to show that I do.
I also always find it hilarious when conservative creationists claim liberal scientists aren't basing their "opinions" on evidence.Nah....I think I've pretty firmly established that you aren't basing your opinion on the evidence.
People support the Black Lives Matter cause because Police brutality on blacks is a thing.Sure....they were just supporting the groups that were rioting and looting.
None showing BLM explicitly promoting violence.
And they, themselves, said this...where, exactly?
Musta missed the celebrating it part, and I certainly missed where the organization promoted violent acts.
So she did. Now, is the entire organization responsible for her actions, just because she supports that organization?
Until you show me BLM specifically and explicitly promoting violence, I cannot accept your claim that they actually do promote violence, no.
Nope. I'm not their spokesman.
Not that support your contention that BLM itself explicitly promotes violence.
Oh, you missed a part:
I asked:
You seem to be saying that BLM is responsible for the violent acts committed by those individuals associated with it. To avoid making any unwarranted assumptions, I've even asked you if that is what you meant to say.
If so, please confirm; if not, please explain why not.
I'm really curious about your answer.
-- A2SG, though I can't really blame you for avoiding answering it.....
People support the Black Lives Matter cause because Police brutality on blacks is a thing.
There are videos of police being brutal to unarmed unagressive blacks leading to the murder of those blacks.
I don't see it listed as an "accomplishment" anywhere. It appears to simply be a news story. But, regardless, they cut ties with her and asked that she no longer attend any BLM events.
Not sure why you think that translates to promoting or supporting violence, exactly, but.....
-- A2SG, you do you, I guess.....
I don't know the specifics of these cases, but people are entitled to protest against "legal rulings".That's pretty generous....
BLM also protests when police shootings are entirely justified and completely legal.
The Breonna Taylor shooting was ruled legal. The Jacob Blake shooting was ruled legal too.
BLM protested those shootings, and others, despite the fact that they were legally justified shootings. The Jacob Blake protests got people killed.
I don't know the specifics of these cases, but people are entitled to protest against "legal rulings".
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