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Performing them is off the table.
Says who?
The fact that you're not willing to state the reasons why you left them casts a shadow of doubt upon the trustworthiness of their practices.So I used to be part of the group, am no longer. I do believe in all the gifts of the Holy Spirit being in operation today, and that demons do exist and can affect people.
I am no longer part of the group for personal reasons although I do disagree with them on how they go about doing their ministry, which I won't go into here fully, only saying that I believe if someone needs deliverance from a demon that should be done before they are baptized not after. That is my main complaint against them.
Take time to listen to the testimonies of those who have been healed...
The fact that you're not willing to state the reasons why you left them casts a shadow of doubt upon the trustworthiness of their practices.
I have seen a lot of miracles and I have seen a lot of people healed. I think the Bottom line is that the Bible is made up of the old and the new covenant. IF we do our part of the Covenant then we can be sure that God will do His part of the Covenant. When we read: "I am the LORD that healeth thee." then we need to find out what we need to do to receive healing from God.There are several YouTube channels with videos showing people "allegedly" healing others of various pains on the streets and in various public locations (stores, parks etc.). One of the most notable one I've come across is this one: WINDSOR ON FIRE
After doing a little research, I found out that they do some sort of recruitment of disciples. They travel to various places and people go and meet them and they give these people "the power of the Holy Spirit" so they can heal other people too.
The whole thing is based on a movie from a few years ago called The Last Reformation, which is about this new religious movement that claims that all Christians can do miracles with the help of The Holy Spirit in Jesus' name. You can watch more about it here: The Last Reformation
There are other channels with street healers that claim to be using the power of The Holy Spirit to heal random passerbies of their pains.
What is your opinion about this? Are all these 'healings' staged (hired actors) or are they made with the power of the enemy?
Yes, but I doubt Jesus would have posted a YouTube video of himself healing the blind man. He often told people not to say that he had healed them. It seems a little self-aggrandizing (sp?) to meOh bologna, Jesus didn't even go into sick wards and "heal everyone" so get that nonsense outta here.
I'm not here to defend all people that claim to have deliverance ministries as I know many are fake. But this lame excuse of "why don't they go to hospitals" is about as old as the earth is.
The Pool for Siloam was full of people who needed healing but Jesus only healed one.So sick wards didn't exist in his day? That is news to me... I thought Luke was a physician.
Let's look at the evidence.
Even if they didn't exist in the modern sense who did Jesus heal?
He healed all who came to him.
Then he heard only those the Holy Spirit showed him. Look at John 5... when he was in Solomons Colonnade there was a "multitude of sick and lame" people there yet Jesus healed only one... why?
When Jesus was being mobbed by people in Luke 8 he healed only one, why?
This nonsense of "just go to hospitals" blah blah blah is garbage and completely false.
what faith is this group? Also healing in JESUS name and by the power of the holy spirit is biblical and fine i've seen unexplainable miracles myself done by using JESUS name. I just find it odd though how they suggest they meet people and give people the power of The Holy Spirit to just go heal..that seems odd. The bible indicates healing isn't just something everyone who has the power of The Holy Spirit to do just like prophoecy or any other gift.There are several YouTube channels with videos showing people "allegedly" healing others of various pains on the streets and in various public locations (stores, parks etc.). One of the most notable one I've come across is this one: WINDSOR ON FIRE
After doing a little research, I found out that they do some sort of recruitment of disciples. They travel to various places and people go and meet them and they give these people "the power of the Holy Spirit" so they can heal other people too.
The whole thing is based on a movie from a few years ago called The Last Reformation, which is about this new religious movement that claims that all Christians can do miracles with the help of The Holy Spirit in Jesus' name. You can watch more about it here: The Last Reformation
There are other channels with street healers that claim to be using the power of The Holy Spirit to heal random passerbies of their pains.
What is your opinion about this? Are all these 'healings' staged (hired actors) or are they made with the power of the enemy?
I didn't see any miracles, speaking in tongues and slain in the spirit, but no actual healing. There have always been Christians like them, into miracles and enthusiastic in their worship. I believe God answers prayer and have no problem with miracles, all I'm really seeing here though are some people involved in highly emotional worship. It's really not all the uncommon in certain Christian circles historically or in modern times.There are several YouTube channels with videos showing people "allegedly" healing others of various pains on the streets and in various public locations (stores, parks etc.). One of the most notable one I've come across is this one: WINDSOR ON FIRE
After doing a little research, I found out that they do some sort of recruitment of disciples. They travel to various places and people go and meet them and they give these people "the power of the Holy Spirit" so they can heal other people too.
The whole thing is based on a movie from a few years ago called The Last Reformation, which is about this new religious movement that claims that all Christians can do miracles with the help of The Holy Spirit in Jesus' name. You can watch more about it here: The Last Reformation
There are other channels with street healers that claim to be using the power of The Holy Spirit to heal random passerbies of their pains.
What is your opinion about this? Are all these 'healings' staged (hired actors) or are they made with the power of the enemy?
what faith is this group? Also healing in JESUS name and by the power of the holy spirit is biblical and fine i've seen unexplainable miracles myself done by using JESUS name. I just find it odd though how they suggest they meet people and give people the power of The Holy Spirit to just go heal..that seems odd. The bible indicates healing isn't just something everyone who has the power of The Holy Spirit to do just like prophoecy or any other gift.
There are some inconsistencies, although I would say this. If healing is needed and there is no other believer around be sure that the Holy Spirit will grant you that gift to use for the Father's glory!
based off some of the videos I have watched they seem to have apostolic/pentecostal beliefs to a degree could be wrong though only seen a few so far.
They consider themselves a completely different group with no ties at all to any denomination. That's where they get their name from actually
Can I ask what videos you were watching?I didn't see any miracles, speaking in tongues and slain in the spirit, but no actual healing. There have always been Christians like them, into miracles and enthusiastic in their worship. I believe God answers prayer and have no problem with miracles, all I'm really seeing here though are some people involved in highly emotional worship. It's really not all the uncommon in certain Christian circles historically or in modern times.
Yeah I guess what I mean is it's kinda like non denominational churches like.
Like here in Houston TX we got a bunch of them but they come across as having a similar belief system to baptist.
So far this one seems to if anything lean towards pentecostalism when it comes to the emphasis on baptism and the holy Spirit speaking in tounques. But I have noticed differences so far such as the fact that they don't seem to believe in the typical church setting at all. ALso the way he prays over people is different
I agree I wouldn't put non denominational or this with another faith altogether but just each one leans somewhat towards an existing faith. LIke the non denominational churches make the same claim here in Texas they don't identify with another faith but just you can look and notice certain similarities with baptist
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