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Sister even if Jesus was to return tomorrow to reign with all the tech we have He would be a superstar obviouslyAnd scriptures for those thoughts please?
Diamond7, go to this thread (click on the link - I think it would help), and follow the "how to" instructions in post #9, to custom title your screen-name info so everyone will know at a glance what your position(s) are. Right now, it says "Well known member" which does not say much.Just who is going to rule and reign with Him for 1,000 years. In Rev 20 we are told about a first resurrection.
"Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also, I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years."
In this passage, the "first resurrection" refers to the raising to life of believers who have been faithful to Jesus Christ. It is described as occurring before the "thousand-year" reign of Christ, often referred to as the "millennium" in Christian eschatology (the study of end times). Those who take part in the first resurrection are depicted as reigning with Christ during this period.
The interpretation of the first resurrection is a topic of theological debate within Christian eschatology, with different traditions and denominations holding varying views. Some interpret it as a literal resurrection of believers before a literal thousand-year reign of Christ on Earth, while others see it as a symbolic or figurative description of the blessings and rewards for faithful believers in the afterlife.
This is a reference to ages. The church age vs the Kingdom age. Usually referred to as the millennial.Where does the Bible say that church and kingdom of God are two different things?
I am not sure I believe in a literal return of Jesus. Although I am open to that. It is difficult to know the future and what is going to take place. Esp when we are talking about an age different then ours.John Nelson Darby invented Dispensational Futurism.
Interesting read as well....I am not sure I believe in a literal return of Jesus. Although I am open to that. It is difficult to know the future and what is going to take place. Esp when we are talking about an age different then ours.
Distinctive Dispensations: Darby's dispensationalism divides human history into distinct periods or "dispensations," each with its own unique characteristics and responsibilities. These dispensations typically include the Age of Innocence (before the Fall), the Age of Conscience (from Adam to Noah), the Age of Government (from Noah to Abraham), and so on. This division is used to interpret the Bible and understand how God has interacted with humanity at different times.
This seems to me being put together quite randomly. Is there a text that clearly distinguishes between the two, in one place?This is a reference to ages. The church age vs the Kingdom age. Usually referred to as the millennial.
Isiah 9:6 talks about this.
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
Revelation 20:4
They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This is a sabbath where man will rest from his works.
The church age has many names. The Holy Spirit dispensation for example.
There are a fair number of scriptures that talk about the third day. For example, The wedding at Cana described in the Gospel of John (John 2:1-11). "On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee.".This seems to me being put together quite randomly. Is there a text that clearly distinguishes between the two, in one place?
The Bible also clearly says 1000 years is equal to a "watch in the night" (Psalm 90:4) - which is a period of 3-6 hours. Far less than a Day.I do not question anything at all. The Bible clearly says 1000 years is a day.
ALSO does not change the fact that Moses (Psalm 90:4) tells us: "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night." NIVThe Bible also clearly says 1000 years is equal to a "watch in the night" (Psalm 90:4) - which is a period of 3-6 hours. Far less than a Day.
Thirteen thousand years ago, approximately 11,000 BCE (Before Common Era), the Earth was in a period known as the Holocene epoch. This period followed the end of the Pleistocene epoch, which was marked by significant glaciation and ice ages. The Holocene epoch began around 11,700 years ago and continues to the present day.Christ's kingdom will never end and its already in place. Revelation is a symbolic book and the thousand years is a symbolic time.
Maria, go to this thread (click on the link - I think it would help), and follow the "how to" instructions in post #9, to custom title your screen-name info so everyone will know at a glance what your position(s) are. Right now, it says "Well known member" which does not say much.Interesting read as well....
As a system Dispensationalism is linked with the teachings of the Anglo-Irish theologian and Plymouth Brethren minister, John Nelson Darby (1800-82). Based on his study of Isaiah 32, Darby believed that Israel would experience earthly blessings in a future dispensation that were different from what the church would experience. He advocated for a strong distinction between Israel and the church. Darby also popularized the idea that the church would be raptured or snatched to heaven just prior to the seventieth-week of Daniel.
Early Dispensationalism began in Britain but then experienced great popularity in the United States. Darby and other Brethren ministers brought Dispensationalism to America. The rise in popularity of Dispensationalism also occurred through Bible conferences, the rise of Bible institutes and colleges, the influence of Dallas Theological Seminary (est. 1924), and the popularity of radio and television programs from dispensational teachers. Hal Lindsey’s book, The Late Great Planet Earth, and the Left Behind book series (Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins) were books published from a dispensational perspective that became best sellers. Dispensationalism remains popular in the United States but also has many critics.
Is there a clear, explicit text saying that there will be "the age of the church" and then, after that, "the age of the kingdom of God"?There are a fair number of scriptures that talk about the third day. For example, The wedding at Cana described in the Gospel of John (John 2:1-11). "On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee.".
Paul explains this in Ehesians 5 "25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her 26to sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to Himself as a glorious church, without stain or wrinkle or any such blemish, but holy and blameless."
"32This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church."
Ephesians 5:32 emphasizes that the marital relationship is a symbolic representation of the deep spiritual connection between Jesus Christ and His Church. It underscores the intimacy, unity, and oneness that believers should have with Christ, akin to the closeness experienced in a loving and faithful marriage. This passage serves as a beautiful illustration of the relationship between Christ and His followers in Christian theology.
Revelation 19:7 (ESV):
"Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready."
In this verse, the "Lamb" refers to Jesus Christ, and the "Bride" refers to the Church. The imagery here portrays a joyful celebration of the union between Christ and His Church, often understood as a representation of the ultimate fulfillment of God's redemptive plan.
The idea conveyed in Revelation 19:7 is that the Church, symbolized as the bride, has prepared herself for this glorious union with Christ. This readiness typically represents the purity, holiness, and faithfulness of believers who have been prepared through their faith in Jesus Christ to be part of His eternal kingdom. The wedding feast of the Lamb is a prominent eschatological theme in the book of Revelation, signifying the culmination of God's plan and the ultimate destiny of the redeemed.
I do not know how this presentation follows the quoted text of mine...Thirteen thousand years ago, approximately 11,000 BCE (Before Common Era), the Earth was in a period known as the Holocene epoch. This period followed the end of the Pleistocene epoch, which was marked by significant glaciation and ice ages. The Holocene epoch began around 11,700 years ago and continues to the present day.
During the Holocene epoch, the Earth's climate stabilized into a relatively warmer and more stable state compared to the previous ice age. Human civilization began to develop, and significant changes in vegetation, wildlife, and sea levels occurred as the planet transitioned from the glacial conditions of the Pleistocene to the more temperate conditions of the Holocene.
It's important to note that the exact dating of events in prehistoric times can vary slightly depending on the methods and sources used by researchers, but the figures mentioned here provide a general timeframe for events occurring around 13,000 years ago.
Approximately 13,000 years ago, at the end of the Pleistocene epoch and the beginning of the Holocene epoch, there was a significant climatic event known as the Younger Dryas stadial. During this period, the Earth's climate cooled significantly, leading to a reversal of the warming trend that had been occurring since the Last Glacial Maximum (around 20,000 years ago).
This cooling period is associated with a number of environmental changes, including shifts in vegetation and the possible extinction of certain megafauna (large animal species). While there was indeed a significant impact on the environment and some extinctions occurred, it's challenging to provide an exact percentage of the population affected because it varied by region and species.
Some of the megafauna that are believed to have gone extinct or experienced substantial population declines during this period include woolly mammoths, saber-toothed cats, and giant ground sloths, among others. However, the degree of impact and the specific species affected varied from place to place.
Additionally, it's important to note that the causes of these extinctions are still a subject of scientific debate. Climate change, overhunting by early human populations, or a combination of both are among the proposed factors.
In summary, while there was a significant environmental shift and some extinctions around 13,000 years ago, it's difficult to provide a precise percentage of the population affected due to the complexity and variability of the factors involved.
Deut. 18: 15 - 19 Speaks of the Lord as prophet when He was on earth.Sister even if Jesus was to return tomorrow to reign with all the tech we have He would be a superstar obviously
He’s not though …
But here’s a few to chew
The messiah will be a prophet like Moses Deut 18:15-19
Isaiah 9:6-7
Joel 3:16-17
No there is not because Paul says this is a mystory. ""32This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church." Perhaps you need to do some study on what "mystery" means in the Bible.Is there a clear, explicit text saying that there will be "the age of the church" and then, after that, "the age of the kingdom of God"?
Is there a clear, explicit text saying that there will be "the age of the church" and then, after that, "the age of the kingdom of God"?
This looks like an AI response. Without any real answer.While the Bible doesn't explicitly describe "the age of the church" followed by "the age of the kingdom of God" as distinct, sequential periods, it does emphasize that the Church is an essential part of God's redemptive plan and that the Kingdom of God is both present and future:
- The Church: The term "Church" (Greek: "ekklesia") is used in the New Testament to refer to the community of believers in Jesus Christ. Jesus Himself mentioned the Church in Matthew 16:18 when He said, "I will build my church." The New Testament epistles, particularly those written by Paul, provide teachings and instructions for the early Christian communities.
- The Kingdom of God: The concept of the Kingdom of God is central to Jesus' teaching. He often used parables and teachings to explain the nature of God's kingdom. For example, in Mark 1:15, Jesus proclaimed, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
The relationship between the Church and the Kingdom of God is a complex and rich theological topic, and interpretations may vary among different Christian denominations and traditions. Some see the Church as a sign and instrument of God's kingdom, while others emphasize the kingdom's future fulfillment.
- The Church exists in the present age as the community of believers who follow Jesus Christ and proclaim the gospel.
- The Kingdom of God is seen as both a present reality in the hearts of believers and a future fulfillment when Christ returns to establish His eternal kingdom.
I think you misunderstood the text. The mystery hidden for ages is church. Not that there will be something else after church.No there is not because Paul says this is a mystory. ""32This mystery is profound, but I am speaking about Christ and the church." Perhaps you need to do some study on what "mystery" means in the Bible.
Also we read: the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.
In the broader context of the book of Colossians, Paul goes on to explain aspects of this mystery, including the supremacy and sufficiency of Christ, the hope of glory in Christ, and the reconciliation of believers to God through Christ's work. The mystery is essentially the unveiling of God's redemptive plan through Jesus Christ, which had not been fully understood in previous generations but has now been made known to believers.
- The Mystery: Paul refers to "the mystery," which is a term he often uses in his writings to describe something previously hidden or not fully understood but now revealed by God.
- Hidden from Ages and Generations: Paul is emphasizing that this mystery was concealed or kept hidden for a long time throughout various ages and generations in the past. It was not fully disclosed or comprehended in the Old Testament era.
- Now Has Been Revealed: The key point in this verse is that this mystery, which was previously hidden, has now been revealed. Paul is likely referring to the revelation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the message of salvation through faith in Christ, and the inclusion of Gentiles (non-Jews) in God's plan of salvation.
- To His Saints: The revelation of this mystery is not just for anyone but specifically for "His saints," meaning those who are set apart for God, believers in Jesus Christ who have dedicated themselves to living in accordance with His teachings.
You can be narrow-minded if you want, but these terms have a much wider application than you seem to understand. Back when we used dictionaries we could see how many different ways a work can be used.Not that there will be something else after church.
The mystery hidden for ages is church.
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