The Internet Is a Cesspool of Racist Pseudoscience

[Kaon]

The only way to fully combat racism is individualism. Collectivism maintains racism.

Individualism is threatening to codependent persons - of which racist most certainly are. Racists are culturally and socially codependent. But, racism isn't going anywhere because it is too profitable.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Humans are social creatures, they will never work as fully individual. The fact that people follow a government organized as a country/nation demonstrates that individualism is not possible, unless of course you subscribe to some form of anarchism. Nonetheless, the social aspect of our species would mean groups would still form. I don't think that has anything to do with combating racism as it is only a fairly recent social construct in human history (i.e., there is nothing inherent about it).

On my job I have worked with and yukked it up with dozens of people, people that I would never hire if I were the boss. They didn't know what they were doing and didn't care. So much for 'working together'. My boss also became so discouraged that he quit hiring seasonal help.

No matter how large the group everyone is an individual in the end. Even identical twins have many individual differences. We even look different from each other, no matter how many of us there are.

 

[98cwitr]

Individualism is threatening to codependent persons - of which racist most certainly are. Racists are culturally and socially codependent. But, racism isn't going anywhere because it is too profitable.

As a person who was raised in a codependent home, and lived as such until my early 20s, I completely agree. Codependency can be cured though.

 

[98cwitr]

Humans are social creatures, they will never work as fully individual. The fact that people follow a government organized as a country/nation demonstrates that individualism is not possible, unless of course you subscribe to some form of anarchism. Nonetheless, the social aspect of our species would mean groups would still form. I don't think that has anything to do with combating racism as it is only a fairly recent social construct in human history (i.e., there is nothing inherent about it).

I completely disagree. Humans can live in interdependency with one another with individualism being apparent and effectual toward relationship building. It's the tactic of codependent people to attack folks that "don't see color" because racism is not only a crutch to the codependent person, but a accusatory weapon to silence any forms of disagreement, criticism and opposition. Saying "I don't see color" is probably not accurate though...folks who use that phrase should further explain "While I see color and ethnicity, I am not letting it define or bias my relationship with you or anyone else." That's a lot of words though.

 

[Kaon]

As a person who was raised in a codependent home, and lived as such until my early 20s, I completely agree. Codependency can be cured though.

Yes, but one usually sees the damaging affects of codependency and wants to change it. People don't want to "cure" racism; they embrace it, and society coddles it by staying mute, or ignoring what it does to people not so high on the meter of human importance. The ones who are affected by racism are usually labelled some term of derision to distract from damage of racism, and those same people are dehumanized (in society) just in case someone decides to be human and takes notice of the affects of said racism. This way, what happens to certain people doesn't trigger as deep as a response as someone who, in society, we are demanded to treat as a human.

When it begins to disturb groups that "matter", that is when there are problems and real change. Everything else is a transition into a different form of the former.

 

[RDKirk]

Some don't want to assimilate at all.

When we tried to, you wouldn't let us.

Wouldn't even let us march in your parades.

 

[RDKirk]

The only way to fully combat racism is individualism. Collectivism maintains racism.

The Apostle Paul and Jesus both appear to think that membership in the Body of Christ should override racism (which didn't even exist back then) as well as every other human bigotry.

 

[98cwitr]

Yes, but one usually sees the damaging affects of codependency and wants to change it. People don't want to "cure" racism; they embrace it, and society coddles it by staying mute, or ignoring what it does to people not so high on the meter of human importance. The ones who are affected by racism are usually labelled some term of derision to distract from damage of racism, and those same people are dehumanized (in society) just in case someone decides to be human and takes notice of the affects of said racism. This way, what happens to certain people doesn't trigger as deep as a response as someone who, in society, we are demanded to treat as a human.

When it begins to disturb groups that "matter", that is when there are problems and real change. Everything else is a transition into a different form of the former.

Eh now that the DCCC just forced Allison to step down due to her skin color, we're about to see this finally come to a head in the next year or so. 2020 is going to be quite amazing, but I'm not sure if it's going to be in a good way.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

When we tried to, you wouldn't let us.

Wouldn't even let us march in your parades.

So you gave up?

 

[Kaon]

Eh now that the DCCC just forced Allison to step down due to her skin color, we're about to see this finally come to a head in the next year or so. 2020 is going to be quite amazing, but I'm not sure if it's going to be in a good way.

All by design. If you give up your energy participating in any side of the current circus called civilization, you are being had *in my opinion*.

 

[cow451]

As a person who was raised in a codependent home, and lived as such until my early 20s, I completely agree. Codependency can be cured though.

Codependency (the unhealthy need to please or repair others) is not to be confused with mutual interdependence, compassion and empathy.
“Individualism” is not a cure for codependency.

 

[RDKirk]

So you gave up?

I, personally, realized that the culture I had aspired to wasn't morally admirable in the first place. So I continued looking.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

The Internet Is a Cesspool of Racist Pseudoscience


No surprise, there is always someone trying to use statistics to make some qualification of a particular group of people to make a racist argument or justify racist treatment of a group. They really are like flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers; social media has given them a place to find like-minded ignorance that is only amplified. At the heart of this group is the grand scheme of some unseen group suppressing these debunked ideas.

Other than stating the obvious, what did you hope to accomplish with this thread? BTW... the internet is also a cesspool of debauchery and sexual immorality too. It is the internet after all.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Racism is a concept that only began in the 15th century, so it hasn't been thousands of years; the flat earth concept is literally thousands of years old, we're talking Bronze Age. Anti-vaxxers are probably the most recent because vaccines arose in the 20th century. Nonetheless, the comparison was about their use of online sources to find a home for their pseudoscientific thought, they are very much alike.

Are you saying that racism didn't exist prior to the 15th century?

 

[RDKirk]

Are you saying that racism didn't exist prior to the 15th century?

Well, the reason you can make that question difficult is because so many other types of bigotry, preferences, an actions have been recently conflated into "racism." Anything and everything gets called "racism" these days.

Racism is bigotry that is the presumption of moral and intellectual characteristics based upon phenotype. That was invented in the 16th century along with modern biological taxonomy.

In ancient days, bigotry more often rested upon cultural differences. Phenotype was given aesthetic consideration, but people did not presume moral and intellectual characteristics by phenotype.

A Roman citizen would be confused to see two people who had been raised in the same city, spoke the same native language (even with the same accent), ate the same cuisine on their mother's knees, went to the same school, worshiped the same gods, fought in the same army...yet claimed to be the same cultures as people from greatly different countries in which they had nothing in common but phenotype.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

Anything and everything gets called "racism" these days.

This is the smartest thing you said. Does "racism" even mean anything anymore?

 

[D.A. Wright]

?

Pretty sure you're being patronized.

 

[D.A. Wright]

Racism is a concept that only began in the 15th century, so it hasn't been thousands of years;.

If you said this in my physical presence (or even over the phone) it would be nearly impossible for me to resist saying: "Dude, you said that out loud."

 

[D.A. Wright]

This is the smartest thing you said. Does "racism" even mean anything anymore?

The real tragedy here is that actual racism is often overlooked and goes unchecked because of rabid ultrasensitivity.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

The real tragedy here is that actual racism is often overlooked and goes unchecked because of rabid ultrasensitivity.

Just like how people call Trump a "Nazi" when in fact he actually hates Nazis so much that he had the last remaining one deported from the United States. Which, I might add, was something that no previous President had the courage to do.

Ex-Nazi Guard in U.S., Now 95, Is Deported to Germany