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The Internet Is a Cesspool of Racist Pseudoscience

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The Internet Is a Cesspool of Racist Pseudoscience
Last month, I temporarily deactivated my Twitter account following a colossal dump of racist abuse into my feed, including a man in Texas whipping up his followers to phone into an NPR radio show on which I was a guest to ask about “white genocide.” Others played a guessing game around my skin color in the belief this would help them gauge my IQ. On YouTube, one of the editors of Mankind Quarterly, a pseudoscientific journal founded after the Second World War to argue against desegregation and racial mixing, imitated me by dressing up in an “Indian shirt” (I am British; my parents were born in India). The comments underneath said I should I go back to where I came from.

It’s just another day online.

The abuse I’ve seen isn’t unusual. Others receive worse, especially if they are in the public eye. My particular crime was to have written a well-reviewed popular science book about why racial categories are not as biologically meaningful as we think and how, in fact, they have been used to justify slavery and the Holocaust. These are ideas so widely accepted in mainstream academia that it should be blandly uncontroversial to repeat them. Yet to read some of the comments I’ve received, one might imagine I was hopelessly deluded.

No surprise, there is always someone trying to use statistics to make some qualification of a particular group of people to make a racist argument or justify racist treatment of a group. They really are like flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers; social media has given them a place to find like-minded ignorance that is only amplified. At the heart of this group is the grand scheme of some unseen group suppressing these debunked ideas.
 

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But seriously though, there's a lot of deception, perversion, and hostility on the internet. I think the internet has proven that if there are no consequences for our actions, then everyone would be a psychopath. Says a lot about human nature, really.

Interesting how the Internet consistently and quickly contaminates a mind that is designed to be clean, such as Microsoft's attempts at an AI that can hold an Internet conversation (from Wikipedia):

Tay was an artificial intelligence chatter bot that was originally released by Microsoft Corporation via Twitter on March 23, 2016; it caused subsequent controversy when the bot began to post inflammatory and offensive tweets through its Twitter account, forcing Microsoft to shut down the service only 16 hours after its launch.[1] According to Microsoft, this was caused by trolls who "attacked" the service as the bot made replies based on its interactions with people on Twitter.[2] It was soon replaced with Zo.

Zo was an artificial intelligence English-language chatbot developed by Microsoft. It was the successor to the chatbot Tay, which was shut down in 2016 after it made racist and genocidal tweets.[1][2] Zo was an English version of Microsoft's other successful chatbots Xiaoice(China) and Rinna (Japan).

Chloe Rose criticized the chatbot in an article in Quartz, writing, "Zo is politically correct to the worst possible extreme; mention any of her triggers, and she transforms into a judgmental little brat." In April of 2019 Zo was shut down on multiple platforms.
 
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Don't insult antivaxxers and flat earthers by comparing them to racists. The qualms of anti/flat crowds is at least with entities larger than them (i.e. corporation and government.) And, the intent is for ALL OF US, not just a specific race of people.

Racists just play into corporate hands by allowing their prejudices to be exploited. The internet is a surveillance program that encourages people to put all of their ideas on record. This way, your profile can be readily made. This is why advertisements and content have race bait: people literally buy into their own psychological manipulation.

Why is this different than the antivax and flat earth? Because racists have been around for thousands of years, and of course the former aforementioned are only a generation old. There are still people today who believe they are better than others, even though they die just as easily, and even though they are subjects of a State (not free.)

Humans need to get their freedom first, before we start claiming superiority. We are all slaves to death; that makes us degenerate. A racist is a double degenerate.
 
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Interesting how the Internet consistently and quickly contaminates a mind that is designed to be clean, such as Microsoft's attempts at an AI that can hold an Internet conversation (from Wikipedia):

Tay was an artificial intelligence chatter bot that was originally released by Microsoft Corporation via Twitter on March 23, 2016; it caused subsequent controversy when the bot began to post inflammatory and offensive tweets through its Twitter account, forcing Microsoft to shut down the service only 16 hours after its launch.[1] According to Microsoft, this was caused by trolls who "attacked" the service as the bot made replies based on its interactions with people on Twitter.[2] It was soon replaced with Zo.

Zo was an artificial intelligence English-language chatbot developed by Microsoft. It was the successor to the chatbot Tay, which was shut down in 2016 after it made racist and genocidal tweets.[1][2] Zo was an English version of Microsoft's other successful chatbots Xiaoice(China) and Rinna (Japan).

Chloe Rose criticized the chatbot in an article in Quartz, writing, "Zo is politically correct to the worst possible extreme; mention any of her triggers, and she transforms into a judgmental little brat." In April of 2019 Zo was shut down on multiple platforms.

Taye, Zoe, Sophia - based on mythic and Gnostic celestial and deities. They are throwing it in our faces the demise we are choosing.
 
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Interesting how the Internet consistently and quickly contaminates a mind that is designed to be clean, such as Microsoft's attempts at an AI that can hold an Internet conversation (from Wikipedia):

Tay was an artificial intelligence chatter bot that was originally released by Microsoft Corporation via Twitter on March 23, 2016; it caused subsequent controversy when the bot began to post inflammatory and offensive tweets through its Twitter account, forcing Microsoft to shut down the service only 16 hours after its launch.[1] According to Microsoft, this was caused by trolls who "attacked" the service as the bot made replies based on its interactions with people on Twitter.[2] It was soon replaced with Zo.

Zo was an artificial intelligence English-language chatbot developed by Microsoft. It was the successor to the chatbot Tay, which was shut down in 2016 after it made racist and genocidal tweets.[1][2] Zo was an English version of Microsoft's other successful chatbots Xiaoice(China) and Rinna (Japan).

Chloe Rose criticized the chatbot in an article in Quartz, writing, "Zo is politically correct to the worst possible extreme; mention any of her triggers, and she transforms into a judgmental little brat." In April of 2019 Zo was shut down on multiple platforms.
It's not the internet, it's human nature to corrupt and destroy everything that is new, pure and innocent before it can become a force of good.
 
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I have the option of choosing the things I do, say, and view on this medium. I don’t have a problem with the Internet. I skim, ignore, and continue to use my brain. The Internet is tool and I treat it as such.
 
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Why is this different than the antivax and flat earth? Because racists have been around for thousands of years, and of course the former aforementioned are only a generation old.
Racism is a concept that only began in the 15th century, so it hasn't been thousands of years; the flat earth concept is literally thousands of years old, we're talking Bronze Age. Anti-vaxxers are probably the most recent because vaccines arose in the 20th century. Nonetheless, the comparison was about their use of online sources to find a home for their pseudoscientific thought, they are very much alike.
 
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Don't feed the trolls. Use care in responding, if you respond. Don't let internet chatter bug you too much.

That’s correct. Some people love to stir the pot. They make inflammatory comments that get people worked up. They may be ranting and raving in type but they’re laughing at home. Their misery has driven them to the point of contamination.

You have to exercise temperance and discernment. Thank the Lord for the blessings you’ve received through positive encounters and comments. And leave the rest alone.
 
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Racism is a concept that only began in the 15th century, so it hasn't been thousands of years; the flat earth concept is literally thousands of years old, we're talking Bronze Age. Anti-vaxxers are probably the most recent because vaccines arose in the 20th century. Nonetheless, the comparison was about their use of online sources to find a home for their pseudoscientific thought, they are very much alike.

Racism has been around for more than 5 centuries. We like to pick that century as a nexus because of the Enlightenment of Europe.

I can show why the earth is a manifold with mathematics (indeed I have), and an antivaxxer can show the biological research and even trials done to substantiate claims. I think there is an idea these type of people are the same as other deplorable because most people disagree with them, or behave like scared animals when confronted with their theories. That is a psychological expectation of a presented argument based on something other than circumstance (whether right or wrong.)

Racists categorically base their idea and ideals on inflated psychology and prejudices, not even an attempt to be factual. It is emotional.
 
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Don't insult antivaxxers and flat earthers by comparing them to racists.
The comparison made was that "social media has given them a place to find like-minded ignorance that is only amplified". IOW, you can thank social media for the amplification of the ignorance of flat earthers, anti-vaxxers and racists.

The racists, along with the aforementioned others, have a instantaneous world-wide platform to belch out their nonsense.
 
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The Internet Is a Cesspool of Racist Pseudoscience


No surprise, there is always someone trying to use statistics to make some qualification of a particular group of people to make a racist argument or justify racist treatment of a group. They really are like flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers; social media has given them a place to find like-minded ignorance that is only amplified. At the heart of this group is the grand scheme of some unseen group suppressing these debunked ideas.

But if people (races) aren't different, why do they look different and act differently?
 
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That’s correct. Some people love to stir the pot. They make inflammatory comments that get people worked up. They may be ranting and raving in type but they’re laughing at home. Their misery has driven them to the point of contamination.

You have to exercise temperance and discernment. Thank the Lord for the blessings you’ve received through positive encounters and comments. And leave the rest alone.
If you read the article, the author points out that the inflammatory people are not the main issue, it's the more sophisticated in propagating racist propaganda, like when a researcher takes a huge database and then manipulates a relationship in the data to make some qualification about a specific racial or ethnic group (e.g., "black crime" statisticians fit this bill quite well). They don't use inflammatory language to stir the pot, they use language that sounds reasonable despite the origin of their garbage is online racist pseudoscience.

Racism has been around for more than 5 centuries. We like to pick that century as a nexus because of the Enlightenment of Europe.

I can show why the earth is a manifold with mathematics (indeed I have), and an antivaxxer can show the biological research and even trials done to substantiate claims. I think there is an idea these type of people are the same as other deplorable because most people disagree with them, or behave like scared animals when confronted with their theories. That is a psychological expectation of a presented argument based on something other than circumstance (whether right or wrong.)

Racists categorically base their idea and ideas on inflated psychology and prejudices, not even an attempt to be factual. It is emotional.
My comparison was about how pseudoscientific ideas propagate, not a judgment of the people that follow those ideas.
 
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If the internet never existed, most people alive today would be very different people. We'd probably be less angry, less narcissistic, less introverted, much less knowledgeable, less entertained, and have better mental health. We'd very likely have different hobbies, have different friends and spouses, have different political and cultural issues...

20+ years ago, we greatly underestimated the impact the internet would have on the world. It's simultaneously our best and worst invention.

I don't mean to represent everyone in my generation, but the internet hasn't changed my life very much at all except to add a little more knowledge and lots of entertainment.
 
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If you read the article, the author points out that the inflammatory people are not the main issue, it's the more sophisticated in propagating racist propaganda, like when a researcher takes a huge database and then manipulates a relationship in the data to make some qualification about a specific racial or ethnic group (e.g., "black crime" statisticians fit this bill quite well). They don't use inflammatory language to stir the pot, they use language that sounds reasonable despite the origin of their garbage is online racist pseudoscience.

My comparison was about how pseudoscientific ideas propagate, not a judgment of the people that follow those ideas.

What do black crime statistics tell you?

Blacks and Asians are both racial minority groups. How do you explain the vast differences between them as citizens or residents of the U.S.? In fact how do you explain the substantial differences between all the ethnic groups here?
 
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What do black crime statistics tell you? Blacks and Asians are both racial minority groups. How do you explain the vast differences between them as citizens or residents of the U.S.? In fact how do you explain the substantial differences between all the ethnic groups here?
Case in point.

Corrected: I love it when the idea is missed, but the grammar is in laser focus. :)
 
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