the inquisition

[OpenDoor]

I just started a study on the inquisition and I thought I knew what I was getting into, but I was wrong (big time). I try not to look down on any church denomination, but what on earth happened here? Its sick

 

[GreekOrthodox]

The Inquisitions (there are 4 main ones) were not just religious in nature but also political. The Spanish Inquisition (NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! from Monty Python), was started and was officially controlled by the monarchy.

 

[CryptoLutheran]

The Inquisitions (there are 4 main ones) were not just religious in nature but also political. The Spanish Inquisition (NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! from Monty Python), was started and was officially controlled by the monarchy.

Correct. For the most part the Inquisitions were the purview of the State. While the Church didn't exactly have a terrible problem with the State executing heretics, it should still be remembered that they were fundamentally acts of the State with more-or-less implicit/explicit support from the Catholic Church.

It should also be remembered that Protestantism didn't exactly take a fundamentally different view, Protestants still expected the State to take such issues into their own hands, and Protestant nations had those deemed heretics executed just as easily as Catholic nations did.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[OpenDoor]

Correct. For the most part the Inquisitions were the purview of the State. While the Church didn't exactly have a terrible problem with the State executing heretics, it should still be remembered that they were fundamentally acts of the State with more-or-less implicit/explicit support from the Catholic Church.

It should also be remembered that Protestantism didn't exactly take a fundamentally different view, Protestants still expected the State to take such issues into their own hands, and Protestant nations had those deemed heretics executed just as easily as Catholic nations did.

-CryptoLutheran

It wasn't just that they executed people. They invented new ways to torture someone.
Some of the tools they invented I was like, "what type of person would even think of that?"

 

[GadFly]

Correct. For the most part the Inquisitions were the purview of the State. While the Church didn't exactly have a terrible problem with the State executing heretics, it should still be remembered that they were fundamentally acts of the State with more-or-less implicit/explicit support from the Catholic Church.

It should also be remembered that Protestantism didn't exactly take a fundamentally different view, Protestants still expected the State to take such issues into their own hands, and Protestant nations had those deemed heretics executed just as easily as Catholic nations did.

-CryptoLutheran

When it comes to the USA, I disagree with you. Although there were pockets of Protest' persecution of individuals, the USA has never had a single policy against any religious expression. I am not familiar if other protest nations have had a policy or law that forbid various religious discrimination. Can you cite any protestant states that did so?

 

[CryptoLutheran]

When it comes to the USA, I disagree with you. Although there were pockets of Protest' persecution of individuals, the USA has never had a single policy against any religious expression. I am not familiar if other protest nations have had a policy or law that forbid various religious discrimination. Can you cite any protestant states that did so?

The United States has no state religion, it's not a Protestant nation. The First Amendment and all that.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[GreekOrthodox]

The New England Puritans executed Mary Dyer and 3 others for returning from being exiled as Quakers:
Mary Dyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AlexBP]

It wasn't just that they executed people. They invented new ways to torture someone.
Some of the tools they invented I was like, "what type of person would even think of that?"

I would strongly recommend reading the following article:

THE HOLY INQUISITION: MYTH OR REALITY

The idea that the Spanish Inquisition was particularly heavy on the use of torture in untrue. Use of torture did occur there but appears to have been rare. In reading about this it's important to consider what sources you're using. Much of the material that's out there about the topic was written by anti-Catholic propagandists.

 

[Walter Kovacs]

what on earth happened here?

An honest, unbiased inquiry into some questionable teachings that was resolved quite peacefully and continues to be a model of church conduct in the face of adversity.

 

[betteroffdead]

When it comes to the USA, I disagree with you. Although there were pockets of Protest' persecution of individuals, the USA has never had a single policy against any religious expression. I am not familiar if other protest nations have had a policy or law that forbid various religious discrimination. Can you cite any protestant states that did so?

Individual U.S. states do have a history of religious persecution.

The Congregational Church was supported by tax money in New Hampshire until the 1940s.

Both Rhode Island and Connecticut were founded by religious dissidents from the colony of Massachusetts, where membership in the Congregational Church was mandated by law.

Virginia used tax money to fund the Anglican Church up until the time of the Revolution.

Shortly after the Revolution North Carolina ratified a state constitution that on the one hand granted freedom of religion to everyone, but then you had to declare your belief in Jesus Christ in order to hold elective office. This constitution was amended after a Jew was elected to the state legislature and was denied his seat because he didn’t believe in Jesus Christ.

For a while at least it was illegal for a Jew to remain in the state of Maryland for more than 24 hours, and you had to declare a belief in Jesus Christ in order to hold any state government office- even so much as notary public. This law was in effect until it was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1960s.

Utah was denied statehood until the Mormon church officially repudiated polygamy.