The "image of Elohim" in Genesis 1

[disciple Clint]

God will give us Hope which is though Grace. Hope is higher than knowing if we get saved. God cannot tell us if we get saved, but can take us higher than that. My initial point was that God considers that our image of Him is intact through the fall. In His eyes we are complete and holy, even as He is. Sin does not modify our nature; it's only an external reality. We do not mix with sin. However, God can help us with our sin and uncertainty through hope, love, faith, trust, etc.. It is a different approach. When you love and have hope, all that is negative disappears. In such a state of Grace, we don't need human solutions such as control, comfort and knowing. First step is accepting our design is perfect. If we think that sin is our very nature, we will always feel uncertain and hesitant.

As I said please read the Bible, go with what God has to say in His word. If we were complete and holy in God's eyes we would not need salvation now would we. We are not saved based on anything we have other than the faith we have in Jesus and what He has done and who He is.

 

[IoanC]

As I said please read the Bible, go with what God has to say in His word. If we were complete and holy in God's eyes we would not need salvation now would we. We are not saved based on anything we have other than the faith we have in Jesus and what He has done and who He is.

In my case, we can get saved by God alone, if HE wants. So, you either have received Grace, or you will get a 'no' instead of salvation. God doesn't need our own powers and understanding of Himself. They are not sufficient in God's eyes.

 

[disciple Clint]

In my case, we can get saved by God alone, if HE wants. So, you either have received Grace, or you will get a 'no' instead of salvation. God doesn't need our own powers and understanding of Himself. They are not sufficient in God's eyes.

He wants to, it says so in the Bible, read it.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Well, in a way ... Because none of us know if we will be saved. No human action or belief can guarantee our salvation. God can simply not like us as persons; so we would not even receive an explanation for God to deny us.

That is contrary to what God has to say about Himself through His own revelation in Jesus Christ, as we read in Scripture.

If God is just a petty being that can say, "No, I don't like you, you can't be with Me" then He isn't really God. Jesus Christ tells us that God is the One from Whom He has come, that through Him the world should be reconciled to God.

You may be presenting a philosophy, but it's not the Gospel. And the Gospel always trumps philosophy.

-CryptoLutheran