Is everyone mad at me for Gay Satan bashing now?! 
I didn't mean anything by it I was just playing
I didn't mean anything by it I was just playing
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The Illuminati???
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I'm not mad... but it's interesting that in South Park and Power Puff Girls cartoons, "satan" is always portrayed as an effeminate homosexual. Does anyone else know of some other works or cartoons, or movies or anything that has used this theme?Christy4Christ said:Is everyone mad at me for Gay Satan bashing now?!
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Christy4Christ said:Is everyone mad at me for Gay Satan bashing now?!
Nobody's mad at you, Christy. I think Mel Gibson was brilliant in portraying Satan the way he did. It fits perfectly because Satan perverted his nature by his rebellion. The Bearer of Light (Luci - fer) became the Lord of Darkness. His contempt for his Creator permeated his nature and makes him contemptuous of all Creation. Contempt and homosexuality are intertwined. Fr. John Harvey, founder of COURAGE -a ministry to homosexuals- says that contempt is the root cause of most homosexuality.
What some people call 'bashing' is merely 'unpleasant truth'. But the truth must be spoken, even though we love homosexuals as persons.
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MatthewG215
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Someone mentioned earlier that he/she doesnt believe in the illuminati in the sense of some evil satan worshipers, but he mentioned some groups that we should all take a look at. There are many groups of economic and political elites who do meet in secret, and have a great deal of influence on our everyday lives. The Bildeberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, Skull and Bones, and the Trilateral Commision, among others. I'm not going to be irresponsible and pretend to know why they meet, but I dont think its "world domination" in the Bond-villain way we know it as. But dont you think we should be more concerned?
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I have stumbled across the Illuminati before. A key figure is a rather unstable and alarming character called Solomon Tulbure, a refugee from Romania. He appears to have suffered from extreme antisemitic persecution in Romania and this seems to have triggered his delusionary ideas. He claims to be highly intelligent but in discussion groups he frequents, he gets furiously angry with anyone who disagrees with him, and is only able to post insults rather than argue constructively.
He hates Christians and Muslims with a vengeance and is a fanatical secular Zionist. Here is a link with some more notes on him.
http://nodeity.com/tulbure.html
He also claims to have invented and released the HIV virus.
http://www.belowtopsecret.com/viewthread.php?tid=8800&page=1
He hates Christians and Muslims with a vengeance and is a fanatical secular Zionist. Here is a link with some more notes on him.
http://nodeity.com/tulbure.html
He also claims to have invented and released the HIV virus.
http://www.belowtopsecret.com/viewthread.php?tid=8800&page=1
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PeterPaul
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Unfortunately, there are many who make claims and appear so out there that people who may have point or hold a curiousity are not taken seriously.
I personally don't believe in UFO's. This is just my belief. I also don't believe there is a conspiracy everywhere or that there is one lurking behind everything. I have better things to do than to be paranoid, like serving God. However, and I've said this before, I can not laugh at people because just as I might find myself looking foolish in the eyes of the popular culture, I want to be taken seriously for my beliefs and transform others. We all want that.
There may or may not be conspiracies but there certainly are agendas. And guess what? When anyone here points that out, the popular culture tells us we are crazy. They tell us the media is not biased. They tell us its our imagination, that we are seeing what we want to see. Are we?
Now imagine someone who may have worked somewhere or seen something they believe is worth telling the public about? It sure is our right to take it or leave it, but lets not laugh at it. There are plenty of people who have risked reputation and financial stability to make the public aware of truth. We need not look further than in this forum and in the Church, where certainly you will find plenty who make modest incomes to serve God's children.
How's about this piece of intrigue? Share international has a seat at the UN and a magazine with celebrities like Prince Charles and Mary Robinson (former President of Ireland) writing in their magazine. Know what this is about? Its about a man, Benjamin Creme who claims to channel a man who is the "second coming of Christ". Why is this organization given prominence. Don't believe me? Check out their website...just be careful...
http://www.shareintl.org/
I personally don't believe in UFO's. This is just my belief. I also don't believe there is a conspiracy everywhere or that there is one lurking behind everything. I have better things to do than to be paranoid, like serving God. However, and I've said this before, I can not laugh at people because just as I might find myself looking foolish in the eyes of the popular culture, I want to be taken seriously for my beliefs and transform others. We all want that.
There may or may not be conspiracies but there certainly are agendas. And guess what? When anyone here points that out, the popular culture tells us we are crazy. They tell us the media is not biased. They tell us its our imagination, that we are seeing what we want to see. Are we?
Now imagine someone who may have worked somewhere or seen something they believe is worth telling the public about? It sure is our right to take it or leave it, but lets not laugh at it. There are plenty of people who have risked reputation and financial stability to make the public aware of truth. We need not look further than in this forum and in the Church, where certainly you will find plenty who make modest incomes to serve God's children.
How's about this piece of intrigue? Share international has a seat at the UN and a magazine with celebrities like Prince Charles and Mary Robinson (former President of Ireland) writing in their magazine. Know what this is about? Its about a man, Benjamin Creme who claims to channel a man who is the "second coming of Christ". Why is this organization given prominence. Don't believe me? Check out their website...just be careful...
http://www.shareintl.org/
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Papist
Hannah and Rowan's Dad
I, too, don't think there are conspiracies ... but there are agendas. I think there are powerful businessmen who group together to protect and advance their businesses, and they do it by influencing government with their money. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that ...
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Papist
Hannah and Rowan's Dad
Gen 22:14 said:Secondly, I am also mindful of not alienating potential Christians by gay-bashing vocally and publically online. If we are to win souls for Christ I feel we should do so in a loving way that doesn't alienate them before we can share the message of what morality and sexual purity is. Should we teach them that their lifestyle is a perversion? Absolutely! But by comparing them to Satan before we've had a chance to evangelically share the Good News is an error in judgement, I believe. But then again, I have been known to be wrong a time or two!
Donna
I don't believe that being gay is necessarily immoral -- and I know I am chellenging Catholic teaching here. My experience of gay people is that they do not choose to be attracted to the same sex -- they just discover that that's the way they are. I think it is immoral when they or anyone else are promiscuous. I welcome gay marriage because it allows gay couples to make life-time monogamous commitments to each other and to society.
I also do not believe there is a gay 'lifestyle'. Yes, there are promiscuous gays, just as there are promiscuous straight people, but I would prefer to talk about the 'promiscuous lifestyle' and the 'monogamous lifestyle'. We should celebrate the 'monogamous lifestyle' (i.e. marriage) for all people while pointing out that the 'promiscuous lifestyle' is the one that falls short of the mark.
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Hannah and Rowan's Dad
I do not condone promiscuity in any form. I am morally conservative. However, my views on gay marriage get labelled as 'liberal' even though I want people who are intrinsically attracted to the same sex to experience the means of grace that marriage is. If gay people cannot be 'moral' because they are simply not attracted to the opposite sex, at least let them be moral by making lifelong commitments to a beloved partner.
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Well then they would be celibate and married? Because if they are engaging in homosexual sex then that is immoral, this is not MY standard, this is biblical..
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Papist
Hannah and Rowan's Dad
Lest I get a 'liberal' label here -- I agree with Cardinal Ratzinger on Buddhism -- "Autoerotic spirituality"! I have been labelled a fascist because of my views on non-Christian religions, because I truly believe that followers of other religions are often trapped into spiritually dangerous dead ends. I think it's easy for people to say that 'all religions are basically the same' but when you look at them in detail, they are not, and given the choice, I sincerely fail to understand why people reject Christ and embark on spiritual paths that just seem to lead to frustration and fear ...
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Papist said:
Maybe I didn't have enough coffee tonight, I don't understand what that had to do with what we were just talking about
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