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The Illuminati???
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ChoirDir said:
LOL! thats funny! No OK here is the thing they stumbled on...
Master Plan-Illuminati
No body better laugh at me, I am not endorsing this I just think it it sort of a fun topic to explore!
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This an an small peice of what this article says.... ummm
The founder of the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt had this to say, "The most wonderful thing of all is that the distinguished Lutheran and Calvinist theologians who belong to our order really believe that they see in it the true and genuine sense of Christians religion. O mortal man, is there nothing you cannot be made to believe."
The founder of the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt had this to say, "The most wonderful thing of all is that the distinguished Lutheran and Calvinist theologians who belong to our order really believe that they see in it the true and genuine sense of Christians religion. O mortal man, is there nothing you cannot be made to believe."
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PeterPaul
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I would not agree with most conspiracy theorists, but to disregard that every so often heads of state attend a meeting which is not even open to the press...seems fishy. To suggest that a group of powerful and wealthy people could push things their way is not absurd, anymore than a government which to this day won't disclose any information until 2027 about the death of their President seems awfully suspicious. And if you haven't been in the military then you probably don't follow black operations.
Why is it that a government needs to be sued in order to obtain Freedom of Information documents?
I'm not trying to say in any way that some people on the internet are privy to such information. By no means. I'm also not trying to say something like Illuminati exists, so please don't attack me as a crazy nut.
However, I would like to point out that many industries "plot" and it takes whistle blowers to uncover their "cover ups" such as the tabacco industry and the car industry.
To suggest extreme political splinters don't plot makes it appear just randomly that a "Mayor" decided to allow gays to marry. I'm not saying people huddled around the room and decided to instigate the marriage issue, but I'm not saying they didn't either.
Indeed people can be a part of a "conspiracy" unknowingly such as when people are ordered "on a need to know" basis.
Again, I'm not trying to legitimize it, just trying to be thoughtful. That's all.
Why is it that a government needs to be sued in order to obtain Freedom of Information documents?
I'm not trying to say in any way that some people on the internet are privy to such information. By no means. I'm also not trying to say something like Illuminati exists, so please don't attack me as a crazy nut.
However, I would like to point out that many industries "plot" and it takes whistle blowers to uncover their "cover ups" such as the tabacco industry and the car industry.
To suggest extreme political splinters don't plot makes it appear just randomly that a "Mayor" decided to allow gays to marry. I'm not saying people huddled around the room and decided to instigate the marriage issue, but I'm not saying they didn't either.
Indeed people can be a part of a "conspiracy" unknowingly such as when people are ordered "on a need to know" basis.
Again, I'm not trying to legitimize it, just trying to be thoughtful. That's all.
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There is definitely one super conspiracy that supervises and dominates all the rest. It is called the Mysterium Iniquitatis, the 'mystery' of evil by Paul of Tarsus. It has many members who do not even know they belong to it.
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PeterPaul,
I hear you, I agree that there maybe are organizations like this out there and we shouldn't be too quick to dismiss the idea of the possibility.
I hear you, I agree that there maybe are organizations like this out there and we shouldn't be too quick to dismiss the idea of the possibility.
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PeterPaul
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My only point really is that I look at everything before I pass judgement and don't consider someone crazy until I fully hear their position. I find it not such a coincidence that a mayor of a city would declare gay "weddings" legal and consitutional, knowing there would be enough judges who would not only not oppose them, but would stall opposition to the weddings. Even the Gov. is ignored as well as the Proposition by the people. Then, we have a domino effect across this country with the people's cry being ignored. So much for the marxist proletariat huh? LOL
If this can occur on a small scale...what could happen within international leadership?
If this can occur on a small scale...what could happen within international leadership?
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Christy4Christ said:Michelina you should read that link I posted it's kind of scary
I did, Christy. I am very familiar with all that stuff. It is scary, but We (of the Church) are the ones they, quite rightly, fear. Christ the King will rule.
An old Latin saying, song:
Christus vincit.
Christus regnat.
Christus imperat.
Christ has conquered.
Christ reigns.
Christ rules.
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PeterPaul said:
I agree with you, PeterPaul. I never simply dismiss a conspiracy theory. The Jesuit Fr. John Courtenay Murray, a noted Political Scientist, used an expression that is very useful: co-inspiracy. A co-inpiracy is a situation where different people seem to be working in concert to achieve a common goal, even though they do not even know each other. They are inspired by the same 'goal' and work separately toward that end. Conspiracy theories often mistake co-inspiracies for real conspiracies.
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Ok the truth is there is a conspiracy but it is a supernatural conspiracy and the evil one uses man against man to carry out that conspiracy. BUT as Michelina said... Christ the King will prevail!
Hail to the King of Kings!
Hail to the King of Kings!
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