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The highly profitable IVF industry is dehumanizing and entirely unregulated — and ends far more unborn lives each year than surgical abortion...

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Promises made…


So, yesterday President Trump issued an executive order related to IVF. When you read the EO, you see that it is, at this point, vague, and basically says: some guys are going to study this and make policy recommendations, with the goal of the policy recommendations being to make IVF cheaper and more available. Because pro-family, etc.

wrote a couple of posts on X about this, here and here, although my response to (Catholic) press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s exultant post on promises made, promises kept got attention as well.

To recap:

  • This was a part of Trump’s campaign platform. Not a secret, not a surprise. In fact, utterly unsurprising.
  • There is widespread acceptance of IVF in the population, and especially among elites. Most of Musk’s children were conceived via IVF. You want to know the value framework at work here? Watch Gattaca.
  • Trump is a transactional politician and a populist. As someone pointed out, IVF is popular.
Nonetheless:

  • JD Vance gave a wonderful speech at the March for Life, claiming: “With the inauguration on Monday, our country faces the return of the most pro-family, most pro-life American president of our lifetimes.”
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I was going to post a thread on this here. I don't mean for this to be a political post or anti- or Pro Trump.
I am opposed to his EO on this issue. Sadly, many of my fellow protestants think this is "pro family."
I completely agree with the RCC's teaching on this. Rod Dreher (Eastern Orthodox) has a post denouncing this Executive Order on his substack, too, and he is generally very pro-Trump.
There are three children(triplets) in my congregation that were created via IVF, and their parents are married and the eggs and sperm were created only using the parents gametes, they are beautiful children created in the image of God, of course! But what about the spare embryos? What to do with them? Dreher points this out in his post, and the commodification of children that could definitely happen and has happened. Not to mention rented wombs, surragacy, Crispr, genetic engineering and experimentaion, LGBTQ couples using it and us paying for it.
No, the RCC is right. They were right with Donum Vitae in 1995. It has take thirty years to see, but we will see.
And also, with this order, how is the government going to choose which couples or even person they are going to pay for IVF or deny?
They won't be able to deny LGBTQ couples or that would be discrimination so our tax dollars will be going to fund this sort of thing.
So they going to say-we will not fund single people, same sex couples, etc? No because that's discrimination and someone will sue. There will be an outcry on the left if it's only heterosexual married couples. This is going to be a Pandora's box.
 
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I wish that every “spare” embryo could have the chance to be born. My sister was born with IVF and she is a wonderful child; I am happy she was born. My mother tried to implant many embryos before my sister and they all died in utero before they could be born. She grieved all of them.

But I hate that the fertility industry even creates this idea of spares at all. Of course they want to choose the “most viable embryo” to spare people like my mother the grief and pain of losing a baby over and over. Of course they want to save money and boost their “success rate” to look better to customers. Of course they don’t want to be sued if the child isn’t “born healthy”. Even with all these “of courses” I still feel like it’s an immediate and temporary fix to a more pervasive problem in human health, where if someone miscarries frequently instead of trying to solve the root cause the industry would rather just throw more embryos away to keep rolling the dice, or if a fetus isn’t viable instead of working on finding ways to improve viability and postnatal health outcomes there’s more pressure to selectively abort and try again with another frozen embryo.

I wish we could spend that time and money and effort on preventing miscarriage altogether!
 
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