The heresy of Judaizing, the first council under St. James. ACTS 15

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How well versed are you in the councils?

Are we aware that the first bishop of The Church, the council and The Holy Spirit agreed that Gentiles were not required to follow Torah, in fact we're to dismiss Torah, in favor of the Christian teachings of equality in worship.

Acts 15:1 "And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved."

The meaning being that we cannot baptize and commune with the uncircumcised.

St James (everyone's first Bishop for 30 years), speaking.

Acts 15:19 "Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:"

This was only the first time that St. James would passively dismiss Torah for Christianity.

James 2:12 "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty."

If we teach Torah as the ends of Christianity we are as guilty as those who came from Judea troubling the Antiochians.

Later St. James was thrown down from the wall of the Temple. Beaten to death with fullers clubs. Disobeying the Temple Priests when he was told to speak from the high place, deny Christ, and deny that he was the leader of this group partaking of a common cup in the bastardized Melchizedek order of wine and bread before daylight on Solomon's Porch. He was buried on the spot where he died. (The cup still in his hand. What the knights Templar were looking for?)

All of this, because he was leading the people away from Torah.

St. James ultimate message, learn the ways of Christ. Learn how and why the Torah was a foreshadowing of Christ. We do not keep "the ways that are hard", it has been completed by the only one who could have done so. (Doing nothing on the Sabbath for instance.)

Now we continue on following HIM and HIS ways. He has fulfilled the Sabbath order. He is risen from the grave.

We have our own religion to tend to now. It has 12 feasts and a central Holy Day, the day of the Resurrection.

We follow.

Forgive me...
 
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Orthodoxy - how do you square that with James' statement in Acts 21?

18 And the following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. 19 After he had greeted them, he began to relate one by one the things which God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry. 20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; 21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads; and all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should abstain from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from fornication.” 26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.​
 
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James walked a thin line living in Jerusalem and teaching Jews to put away the Torah. He agreed with St. Paul who taught...

Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

He was also afraid for Paul, he thought it (his teaching among the gentiles) would lead to his murder. There was capitulation in order to preserve life. Both were aware that Jew were stubborn and this change would take time.

Forgive me...
 
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The heresy of Judaizing, the first council under St. James. ACTS 15

How well versed are you in the councils?

Are we aware that the first bishop of The Church, the council and The Holy Spirit agreed that Gentiles were not required to follow Torah, in fact we're to dismiss Torah, in favor of the Christian teachings of equality in worship.

Acts 15:1
"And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved."
Sounds like a council I would embrace.
Jesus and Paul weren't too keen on the Judaizers either...
Seems that Paul is telling his followers to flee from them:

Gal 1:13
for ye did hear of my behaviour once in Judaism,
that exceedingly I was persecuting the assembly of God and wasting it
Phil 3:2
Beware of-the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the circumcision!
2 Corin 6:17
wherefore come-forth out of midst of them! and be being separated! is saying Lord............


Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of the tormenting of them is ascending into Ages to-Ages.
 
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