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the grey album

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heh.

Basically it's the Jay-Z vocals put over some cut up beats from the White Album. The instrumental work is actually pretty good, DM uses some clever tricks to extract some hip hop style beats while keeping bits of the original melodies. My favorites are December 4th (by far), What More Can I Say, and 99 Problems.
 
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I thought the Grey album was decent. I like the Beatles alot and Jay-Z is sometimes decent (although what was he thinking teaming up with Linkin Park?). I thought the combination of the two was creative and also aesthetically pleasing. I haven't heard other Dangermouse stuff though, I'll have to check it out.
 
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Spoilt Victorian Child said:
Didn't this get him in legal trouble?

only briefly. the album put his name on the map for the masses. it's become one of the most widely downloaded albums in the past year.

the album is aces. no one else thought to cross the black album with the album. the name is clever and the concept is unique beacause he is the first to have done this. innnovation on his part was rewarded not through the sales of the album but through the reputation that it's brought.
 
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Spoilt Victorian Child said:
Didn't this get him in legal trouble?

yeah. he didn't ask for permission. he just liked jay z and the beatles. thought of the black album and the white album, and decided to make the two work. unlike many other mash ups, this one's very creative because he limited himself to just these two records. he didn't sample anything else.

like the beatles' emi would have granted it. [/sarcasm] he was ordered to cease distributing copies by emi, but that sparked quite the internet boycott with grey tuesday. "Special interests, including the major labels, have turned copyright law into a weapon. IfDanger Mouse had requested permission and offered to pay royalties, EMI still would have said no and the public would never have been able to enjoy this critically acclaimed work. Artists are being forced to break the law to innovate." the last sentence sparked its own controversy.

over 200 sites participated by deciding to host the music, for lack of a better term, and various accounts say it then had 1 million downloads thus defeating the purpose of that emi cease and desist order. viral disobedience. supports are aware of copyright laws, but question whether those laws are in touch with needs and reality of certain aspects of music. emi tried to have it taken down, but apparently, eventually dropped the effort.

jay z's rockafella would have given permission, maybe. the head, damon dash, said " I think it's hot. It's the Beatles. It's two great legends together."

this stuff is from 2004, so it's not that old. anyway, i just thought the album cover was too funny for words and wanted to share. :wave:
 
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Arnold_Philips said:
It wasn't that good. Mashups are old news. Dangermouse has done better things (see DM + Jemini).

I wouldn't consider those type mashups old news. Mixing random pop songs is relatively new, but the concept itself is kind of old. The Avalanches were doing it back in the late 90s/early 2000s (Gimix, Since I Left You), but they were a different scope--creating new songs out of many fragments of others, not putting a rap vocal over an indie rock song and calling it a day.
 
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Anyone heard The Doulbe Black Album, by DJ Cheap Cologne? He mashed-up Metallica's Black Album with Jay-z. There's a whole bunch of these mash-up's online; some are good, some are just awful. They're mad easy to do, btw. I have tried to do some....they sucked.
 
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There's also Jay-Zeezer, which is Jay-Z and Weezer, and the Slack Album, which is Pavement and Jay-Z, and on and on...

Jay-Z wouldn't have had a problem with DM taking apart his music. This was his "last" album and he put online a toolkit for every to mess around with. Jay-Z encouraged people to make remizes and mashups.



I wouldn't consider those type mashups old news. Mixing random pop songs is relatively new, but the concept itself is kind of old. The Avalanches were doing it back in the late 90s/early 2000s (Gimix, Since I Left You), but they were a different scope--creating new songs out of many fragments of others, not putting a rap vocal over an indie rock song and calling it a day.
Well, I wouldn't consider what the Avalanche's or DJ Shadow do to be "mashups." They're sampling other works and purposefully obfuscate the sources to create new songs out of them. Mashups, whose Renaissance began officially with "A Stroke of Genie-us" IMO, are pretty old (2001), though they could be dated back a lot farther if you change the definiton. They're more flagrant in the use of instrumentals and a capellas.
 
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Arnold_Philips said:
Jay-Z wouldn't have had a problem with DM taking apart his music. This was his "last" album and he put online a toolkit for every to mess around with. Jay-Z encouraged people to make remizes and mashups.
Yeah. He released an acapella version of the album.

Well, I wouldn't consider what the Avalanche's or DJ Shadow do to be "mashups." They're sampling other works and purposefully obfuscate the sources to create new songs out of them.
True. DJ Shadow might not make straight up hip-hop beats, but he digs in the crates, uses samples the way a hip-hop producer does.
 
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