"The Greatest Conceivable Being"

[anonymous person]

He (@anonymous person) really doesn't get it. He thinks it's about pride. Yet who in this thread isn't willing to admit even the possibility of error? It's him.

Possibilities come cheap.

 

[anonymous person]

If you had told us that you weren't willing to support your positions or answer questions, but that you had no qualms about deceit and plagiarism, then you would have indeed saved us some time.

And yet I have a strange feeling you will keep engaging me in discussion.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Possibilities come cheap.

As do baseless accusations of pride from individuals too conceited to recognise it in themselves.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

And yet I have a strange feeling you will keep engaging me in discussion.

One must find amusement somehow. Hypocrites are easy targets.

 

[anonymous person]

As do baseless accusations of pride from individuals too conceited to recognise it in themselves.

God has said that sin and pride keeps men from realizing their desperate situation. That's either true or false. So your qualm is really not with me, but with the bible.

 

[Ana the Ist]

That sounds like someone I would respect.



Sounds like someone admirable.



She wants to earn her way in life? She has my vote for President.



Let's see... intellectual integrity, standing on her own two feet, and values intellect and knowledge. She must have been told that she passed the test and was offered a special place in heaven as a reward. Oh, but wait, that would be rational and ethical.


eudaimonia,

Mark

I remember wanting to make a thread about themes of defeatism within christianity. Posts like this (and so many others) reek of the whole "lay down and give up" attitude which seems to be a prerequisite for a relationship with an all powerful entity which "loves you".

The thing is, I realized that had I created the thread...I would've simply been told that I was misunderstanding christianity, that there were no themes of "you're a pathetic human being until you submit completely to god".

 

[Archaeopteryx]

God has said that sin and pride keeps men from realizing their desperate situation. That's either true or false. So your qualm is really not with me, but with the bible.

That's a good insight, Jeremy: now apply it to yourself (for once).

 

[anonymous person]

One must find amusement somehow. Hypocrites are easy targets.

Good to finally have you say it. That is, that you are here for amusement. Since that is the case and you have said it, I will for the time, refrain from speaking with you.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I remember wanting to make a thread about themes of defeatism within christianity. Posts like this (and so many others) reek of the whole "lay down and give up" attitude which seems to be a prerequisite for a relationship with an all powerful entity which "loves you".

The thing is, I realized that had I created the thread...I would've simply been told that I was misunderstanding christianity, that there were no themes of "you're a pathetic human being until you submit completely to god".

"He just wants a relationship with you... And to save you from what he will do to you if you don't reciprocate his 'love.' Isn't that just wonderful?!"

 

[anonymous person]

I remember wanting to make a thread about themes of defeatism within christianity. Posts like this (and so many others) reek of the whole "lay down and give up" attitude which seems to be a prerequisite for a relationship with an all powerful entity which "loves you".

The thing is, I realized that had I created the thread...I would've simply been told that I was misunderstanding christianity, that there were no themes of "you're a pathetic human being until you submit completely to god".

You are closer to the truth than you may think.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Good to finally have you say it. That is, that you are here for amusement. Since that is the case and you have said it, I will for the time, refrain from speaking with you.

Well, I didn't say that I was here for amusement. Rather, what I implied was that I get quite a bit of amusement from your posts. You hold yourself in such high regard, Jeremy, and yet your tactics are so blatantly disingenuous. It's no wonder that you were banned from The Thinking Atheist. You want to be taken seriously, but you cannot be taken seriously while you continue on this path. That's why I'm amused. You're chasing your tail.

 

[Eudaimonist]

So your qualm is really not with me, but with the bible.

I don't have any problems with the Bible. It's some of the best fiction I've ever read, and even Christians may read it symbolically rather than literally. I do have problems with certain interpretations of the Bible, and those problems necessarily are with certain living individuals, not with ink on paper.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Ana the Ist]

If you would have told me this at the start, it would have saved us both much time.

Lol why? You could've asked...

 

[anonymous person]

I don't have any problems with the Bible. It's some of the best fiction I've ever read, and even Christians may read it symbolically rather than literally. I do have problems with certain interpretations of the Bible, and those problems necessarily are with certain living individuals, not with ink on paper.


eudaimonia,

Mark

The bible is comprised of 66 pieces of literature. These pieces range in genre from historical narrative to poetry.

Labeling it some of the best fiction you have ever read belies a gross generalization of it's contents.

Name one account that you have evidence is fictional.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The bible is comprised of 66 pieces of literature. These pieces range in genre from historical narrative to poetry.

Labeling it some of the best fiction you have ever read belies a gross generalization of it's contents.

Name one account that you have evidence is fictional.

A literal reading of Genesis is untenable, for example.

 

[anonymous person]

Retracted.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Name one account that you have evidence is fictional.

Much of the Old Testament is almost certainly written centuries after the events described therein had allegedly happened.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/l...ld-testament-storeis-are-fiction-1500431.html

As amusing as this diversion may be, I still don't have any problems with a book -- only the interpretations that someone might have of that book.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[anonymous person]

Much of the Old Testament is almost certainly written centuries after the events described therein had allegedly happened.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/l...ld-testament-storeis-are-fiction-1500431.html

As amusing as this diversion may be, I still don't have any problems with a book -- only the interpretations that someone might have of that book.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Are you willing to change your view about this?

If so what would it take?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Are you willing to change your view about this?

Why are you so concerned about this issue? The point of my post (#592) is that different people may interpret a book in different ways. That means that one has qualms with interpretations of books, not with the books themselves. I wasn't making any claims about the historicity of the Bible. That is completely off topic to my point.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[anonymous person]

Why are you so concerned about this issue? The point of my post (#592) is that different people may interpret a book in different ways. That means that one has qualms with interpretations of books, not with the books themselves. I wasn't making any claims about the historicity of the Bible. That is completely off topic to my point.


eudaimonia,

Mark

I know your main point was not about the books themselves.

However you did say that the bible is some of the best fiction you have ever read and then you referred me to an article about Thomas L. Thompson, a biblical minimalist of the Copenhagen school.

So I asked you if you were willing to change your views about the bible being a work of fiction.

Specifically, are you willing to change your views about the reliability of historical documents as bearers of truth?

Or is your mind pretty well made up and nothing I say will change it?