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Hey, what can i say if you don t get it?Like "everything that begins to exist has a cause" or "from nothing comes nothing".
No i don't, but that's not even relevant.Your major problem is you think you have access to knowledge about the conditions in which the universe itself exists.
Not my statements, but they could have been, except for the definitiveness.And from there you think you can make definitive statements like "a universe needs a prior event to 'cause' it". Or "a universe cannot exist eternally and uncaused".
It's not that relevant.Neither of us can say what time and cause even mean in the realm where universes exist, 'outside' of our universe. All we know about is how things behave within our universe. (And even then, only in our observable region - but thats another story).
Don´t get what? The stuff you just assert and don´t even try to explain or support?Hey, what can i say if you don t get it?
I don´t have a problem.What is your problem?
ITDon´t get what?
The stuff you don't want to get.The stuff you just assert and don´t even try to explain or support?
Good.I don´t have a problem.
Speculation is a hell of a lot easier than discussion. Its disappointing, though.You guys call yourselves seekers, but you're probably agnosticists.
You want to be unsure, because uncertainty implies nothing, is what you believe.
(So i speculate)
I'm sorry, that was a bit uncalled for...Speculation is a hell of a lot easier than discussion. Its disappointing, though.
Total non-responsiveness noted coupled with mind reading attempt noted.ITThe stuff you don't want to get.Good.
I'm flattered that I am more interesting than the actual topic.I'm sorry, that was a bit uncalled for...
Non the less, it's a trend.
Compulsive relativism.
You're flattering yourself i'm afraid...I'm flattered that I am more interesting than the actual topic.
the term 'delusional' springs to mind...But out of respect for the OP, perhaps you could you start a separate thread about me.
Frustrating, isn't it?Total non-responsiveness noted coupled with mind reading attempt noted.
Oh brother.....People say: "Nothing is what it seems" and things like that.
Then nothing would be conceivable. (BOT)
...from a different mother...Oh brother.
yeah, well, some say ignorance is bliss...I'm perfectly comfortable going through daily life using my strong inference that the typical material things around me have a material cause, in a time-sequence.
I think i have tried that, sir.But I have no basis at all for extending that inference to the universe itself, in whatever realm universes exist. None. If you have a basis for that, please provide it.
All you have offered is the strong inference about events within our universe....I think i have tried that, sir.
It's no use, i give up.
Have a nice one.
I'm not running, i'm leaving hesitantlyThere's a long history of giving up and running
That's true.when you have answered the same question over and over,
i guess when we realized we're discussing an inconceivable being.And when did we stop talking about the greatest conceivable being?
I'm not running, i'm leaving hesitantly That's true.i guess when we realized we're discussing an inconceivable being.
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