The Graying of Adventism

[tall73]

I found the following interesting:

The median age for the Seventh-day Adventist community in North America, including the unbaptized children in church families, is 58. The median age for the general public is 36 in the U.S. and 37 in Canada. Among native-born White and Black members the median age is even higher.

And

More than 1,000 Adventist congregations in North America have no children or youth.

http://www.creativeministry.org/article.php?id=500&search=research

 

[AndrewK788]

I found the following interesting:

The median age for the Seventh-day Adventist community in North America, including the unbaptized children in church families, is 58. The median age for the general public is 36 in the U.S. and 37 in Canada. Among native-born White and Black members the median age is even higher.

And

More than 1,000 Adventist congregations in North America have no children or youth.

http://www.creativeministry.org/article.php?id=500&search=research

By saying median age, I'm assuming you don't mean average? I'm trying to make sure I understand.

 

[tall73]

By saying median age, I'm assuming you don't mean average? I'm trying to make sure I understand.

Consider the set of numbers 80, 90, 90, 100, 85, 90. They could be
math grades, for example.

The MEAN is the arithmetic average, the average you are probably used
to finding for a set of numbers - add up the numbers and divide by how
many there are: (80 + 90 + 90 + 100 + 85 + 90) / 6 = 89 1/6.

The MEDIAN is the number in the middle. In order to find the median,
you have to put the values in order from lowest to highest, then find
the number that is exactly in the middle:

80 85 90 90 90 100
^
since there is an even number of values, the MEDIAN is
between these two, or it is 90. Notice that there is
exactly the same number of values ABOVE the median as
BELOW it!




http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/58326.html

 

[Lebesgue]

I found the following interesting:

The median age for the Seventh-day Adventist community in North America, including the unbaptized children in church families, is 58. The median age for the general public is 36 in the U.S. and 37 in Canada. Among native-born White and Black members the median age is even higher.

And

More than 1,000 Adventist congregations in North America have no children or youth.

http://www.creativeministry.org/article.php?id=500&search=research

The kids get wise to some of the things like the IJ that are not true. My son figured out that something was wrong with some of the Adventist doctrines about a year before I did.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

 

[Bourbaki]

I found the following interesting:

The median age for the Seventh-day Adventist community in North America, including the unbaptized children in church families, is 58. The median age for the general public is 36 in the U.S. and 37 in Canada. Among native-born White and Black members the median age is even higher.

And

More than 1,000 Adventist congregations in North America have no children or youth.

http://www.creativeministry.org/article.php?id=500&search=research

It’s called the shaking. "All will be shaken out who are not willing to take a bold and unyielding stand for the truth and to sacrifice for God and His cause." EW 50.

As I see it, the will of God must be at work. And the demographics obviously prove that this interpretation is true: most of the remaining church members are too old and decrepit to care what the truth is. Praise God!

 

[Bourbaki]

The kids get wise to some of the things like the IJ that are not true. My son figured out that something was wrong with some of the Adventist doctrines about a year before I did.

The truth of the investigative judgment is an utter triviality, but I refuse to share my new light with those who tolerate the third demon’s message.

 

[JonMiller]

Is that the spirit of God, Bourbaki?

JM

 

[Lebesgue]

The truth of the investigative judgment is an utter triviality, but I refuse to share my new light with those who tolerate the third demon’s message.

So I would gather that it is your opinion that I am "doomed" and "damned". Ok you have a right to your opinion.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

 

[Bourbaki]

Is that the spirit of God, Bourbaki?

Are you questioning my joy in the shaking of Laodiceans or are you condemning me because I have no interest in sharing my new light on the Investigative Judgment with those who tolerate the third demon’s message?

 

[Mankin]

Just ignore Bourbaki. We've had him around for awhile.

 

[AndrewK788]

Refusing to share light huh? Well okay. I'm sure God will understand...

 

[Bourbaki]

Refusing to share light huh? Well okay. I'm sure God will understand...

Not only does God understand but I understand it too. You obviously never grasped the meaning of Ezekiel 14:1-11 (New International Version):

Some of the elders of Israel came to me and sat down in front of me. Then the word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, these men have set up idols in their hearts and put wicked stumbling blocks before their faces. Should I let them inquire of me at all? Therefore speak to them and tell them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: When any Israelite sets up idols in his heart and puts a wicked stumbling block before his face and then goes to a prophet, I the LORD will answer him myself in keeping with his great idolatry. I will do this to recapture the hearts of the people of Israel, who have all deserted me for their idols.'

"Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!

" 'When any Israelite or any alien living in Israel separates himself from me and sets up idols in his heart and puts a wicked stumbling block before his face and then goes to a prophet to inquire of me, I the LORD will answer him myself. I will set my face against that man and make him an example and a byword. I will cut him off from my people. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

" 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. They will bear their guilt—the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

I have Bourbaki on ignore and I find life much better that way.

 

[Lebesgue]

And I have you on a list of Adventist spiritists that enjoy a wonderful bond of camaraderie with known Subversives.

Thats too bad you feel that way. IF most Adventists were like RC and IF the Adventist Church put into place the reforms he proposes, it would be a lot better. Who knows? I might have stayed even.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

 

[FreeinChrist]

Before it goes too far off topic, the topic is stated in the OP. Let's keep to the topic

Remember the site wide rules, which include this:
Threads which are off topic for the individual forums are not allowed, and substantial derails of threads are not looked upon in a favorable fashion.

 

[NightEternal]

I have Bourbaki on ignore and I find life much better that way.

You mean he's still here?

 

[Sophia7]

He's back. He was gone for a while.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

I just posted last night on my blog about the graying of Adventists. While I was looking at some things I got stats from 2001 on Canadian median age and it was lower then the general population. So right now I don't know what to think. I remember Ron Lawson from the glory days at SDANET and I don't think he would be apt to mess up his study but we have not seen his study just creative ministries view of his study. Anyway somethings are not adding up.
http://cafesda.blogspot.com

 

[Mankin]

Why does this not surprise me? The way Adventism supresses every form of new ideas and new music, why am I surprised that youth leave the church? The way Adventism promotes legalism, why am I surprised? The way that some evangelists still teach perfection theology, why am I surprised? Dig your heels in and you get left behind, plain and simple.

It happened with the Spartans, it happened with the Catholic Church, and it's happening to Adventism.

Heresy is a matter of opinion. Just because you don't agree with a new spirtual idea does not make it any less biblical than yours.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Thats too bad you feel that way. IF most Adventists were like RC and IF the Adventist Church put into place the reforms he proposes, it would be a lot better. Who knows? I might have stayed even.

Shalom,

Lebesgue

Then the church would no longer be called the Seventh-day Adventist. Perhaps this is what the devil is trying to achieve.