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<blockquote data-quote="TheDag" data-source="post: 40877143" data-attributes="member: 96964"><p>while I think the terroist attacks are often used as an excuse to do away with personal liberties numerous things you mention are not in the same category. For example the law requiring people to wear a helmet while riding a pushbike (or motorbike) is good. Why? At the end of the day why should we the taxpayer fork out hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars on health care for a person who came off their bike and suffered major head injuries as a result of not having a helmet. No bathing without sunscreen is not a law (and many don't) but once again how much should we pay because people couldn't be bothered doing something small to protect themselves. No drinking? Are you serious? It is allowed but what is wrong with the message of drinking responsibly. I don't know how many fights you've seen started by drunken idiots but I've seen way too many. Often people who were served drinks despite being drunk and therefore should have legally been refused service. Once again the huge monetry cost of drunkeness not just in fights or accidents (especially in drink driving) but in vandalism as well. When it comes to smoking there is clearly a link to health issues and smoking (of course you get the odd exception of the smoking drinking 100 year old who did very different work to us) is a massive cost. Also why should I have o put up with smeely fould smoke? In all honesty I have no problem if people want to smoke but there is a saying when your freedom impinges on my freedom then it is no longer a right. Or in other words if you could guarentee thatI didn't have to put up with smelly smoke or picking up cig butts or risk getting blown up because some idiot wants to smoke while puting petrol in their car then fine. However every smoker says they always put their buts in the bin but why do I see so many on the ground and in gardens? Obviously alot (the majority?) aren't.</p><p>While you raise a valid point to be considered the examples leave alot to be desired imho.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheDag, post: 40877143, member: 96964"] while I think the terroist attacks are often used as an excuse to do away with personal liberties numerous things you mention are not in the same category. For example the law requiring people to wear a helmet while riding a pushbike (or motorbike) is good. Why? At the end of the day why should we the taxpayer fork out hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars on health care for a person who came off their bike and suffered major head injuries as a result of not having a helmet. No bathing without sunscreen is not a law (and many don't) but once again how much should we pay because people couldn't be bothered doing something small to protect themselves. No drinking? Are you serious? It is allowed but what is wrong with the message of drinking responsibly. I don't know how many fights you've seen started by drunken idiots but I've seen way too many. Often people who were served drinks despite being drunk and therefore should have legally been refused service. Once again the huge monetry cost of drunkeness not just in fights or accidents (especially in drink driving) but in vandalism as well. When it comes to smoking there is clearly a link to health issues and smoking (of course you get the odd exception of the smoking drinking 100 year old who did very different work to us) is a massive cost. Also why should I have o put up with smeely fould smoke? In all honesty I have no problem if people want to smoke but there is a saying when your freedom impinges on my freedom then it is no longer a right. Or in other words if you could guarentee thatI didn't have to put up with smelly smoke or picking up cig butts or risk getting blown up because some idiot wants to smoke while puting petrol in their car then fine. However every smoker says they always put their buts in the bin but why do I see so many on the ground and in gardens? Obviously alot (the majority?) aren't. While you raise a valid point to be considered the examples leave alot to be desired imho. [/QUOTE]
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