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[Apple Sky]

Your answers are getting more pathetic.

First on a flat earth the sun would never set. So saying “the sun is always travelling across our skies” and then saying “when the sun sets” is contradicting yourself.

Second, where is the sun in the sky when it supposedly “travelled so far out to another location”? If it never sets (and on a flat earth it couldn’t) it should still be visible in the sky as a point of light & be magnified using a telescope. There’s no flattie video of that is there?

Third, why is it never visible at half its size? Or any size other than full size? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates above us, it must vary in size continuously. But it doesn’t.

Fourth, if it rotates above us on a flat earth, its speed must vary continuously. But it doesn’t. Amatuer astronomers use motorised equatorial mounts to track the sun at a continuous steady speed with no variation through the day.

Fifth, equatorial mounts are designed to track the sun using only one axis of rotation. If the earth is flat and the sun rotates above us, the mounts would have to rotate on two axes of rotation to track the sun. The equatorial mount as it is designed wouldn’t work.

Making out 93 million miles to be “so ridiculous” is showing yourself up as somebody incapable of understanding basic physics.

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[Phil G]

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Which completely fails because of simple observation of the sun.

See my post #720 for a very very very basic concept even you should be able to understand!

 

[Apple Sky]

There’s no flattie video of that is there?

 

[Apple Sky]

See my post #720 for a very very very basic concept even you should be able to understand!

I've read it and it's all nonsense.

 

[Phil G]

I've read it and it's all nonsense.

So it's all nonsense that objects appear to get smaller as they move away from you? Your delusion is beyond belief!

 

[Phil G]

So where does he zoom the sun back in again after it has set????

That's the video I want to see!

You yourself observed the sun going below the horizon. If it didn't actually do that where's the video evidence of it being zoomed back in again?

And its not just about as the sun sets, it's about its path across the sky during the whole day. It should continuously change size throughout the day. It would have to consistently get smaller from noon onward. Where is the video for that? And where is the video for it continuously getting bigger from sunrise till noon?

And it should change speed throughout the day as well. Motorised equatorial mounts prove it doesn't.

Sleight of hand trickery to fool the gullible is not proof!

 

[Jerry N.]

Why is it that these videos always shift the X, Y, and Z planes to show their falsehood and expect the viewer not to notice? His “demonstration” had nothing to do with the actual flat earth model, because it would not work. Flat earth people can’t even keep their own propositions consistent, so how could their proofs ever stand?

 

[contratodo]

What do think the Prophet Isaiah means when he says "the mountains and the hills before you shall break forth into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands"? Do mountains have mouths and lungs to sing and do trees have hands, or is the inspired prophet somehow wrong

He was talking about actual sounds. Trees leaves rustling together is like clapping. And here is a quick thing the a.i. said about sounds around mountains

Passing by mountains offers a rich soundscape of nature—wind whistling through peaks, roaring streams, rustling trees, bird calls, and animal sounds (frogs, cicadas), often amplified by rock formations creating echoes and carrying sounds further in valleys, from gentle whispers to intense howls and rushing water, creating distinct ambient experiences.

Isaiah was talking about actual sounds.
Just as the psalmist was talking about the actual sun.

 

[contratodo]

Since you are back, perhaps you can give an explanation as to how flights between Sydney and Santiago take less time than flights between Sydney and Los Angeles on your flat earth. I've asked both @d taylor and @Apple Sky and they have both failed to give a response. Maybe you can provide an answer

Looking through Expedia the flight times are about the same, an average of 13 hours for both sets of non stop trips, both sets of trips give generally the same times when I just searched right now.

 

[Strong in Him]

I've read it and it's all nonsense.

Prove it.

Take a photo of someone standing in front of you.
Now take one of them standing 3 feet away from you.
8 foot away.
15 foot away.
Now tell them to walk to the end of the road/other side of a field or garden and take a photo again - on a camera without a zoom lens.
What difference is there between the first photo and the last one?

I'm quite sure there must have been times where someone has said to you, "who's that over there?" and you've replied "I can't see; they're too far away." What happened as they walked towards you?
I'm sure you must have been sitting in a car/on a bus or train and seen a sign in the distance that you couldn't read. What happened as you got closer to it?
Have you stood at your open front door and said "goodbye" to guests as they've gone to drive home? How big was their car when it was in your drive? What about when it reached the end of the road?
If you've ever flown, what could you see when you looked out the plane window before take off? What about 5 minutes after take off - could you still see all the people on the tarmac?
If you were standing on a beach looking at a boat, how big was it? What about when it sailed away from you; was it the same size?

If you are claiming that things that are a certain distance away look the same size as they come closer towards you, and vice versa, you either have a problem with your vision or you are too stubborn to admit that that the opposite happens.
Note, the people/cars/objects remain the same size throughout; they don't shrink. But the distance between you makes them look bigger/smaller. That's perspective.

 

[Strong in Him]

He was talking about actual sounds. Trees leaves rustling together is like clapping.

So it's poetic. The trees don't literally bang their hands together - assuming you think they have hands.

 

[Hentenza]

Do you really think the sun is 93 million miles away, do you know how far that is ? This is just so ridiculous.

Do you have any idea how hot the sun is? If it was any closer there would be no life on earth. God knows what He is doing.

The sun circles our sky - Amen

Nope. That is physically impossible.

 

[Apple Sky]

God knows what He is doing.

I know God knows what he's doing, that's why he has blessed us with a local sun.

 

[Phil G]

I know God knows what he's doing, that's why he has blessed us with a local sun.

Yes local….at 93 million miles. Compared to His infinite-to-the-human-mind universe. Not the little clockwork toy trinket you think He made.

 

[Hentenza]

I know God knows what he's doing, that's why he has blessed us with a local sun.

Which is 93 million miles away just where He put it. Any closer and there would not be any life on earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

Yes local….at 93 million miles.

Lol'z - Call that local ?

 

[Hentenza]

Lol'z - Call that local ?

Yes. Why don’t you research the Parker Solar Probe ( just google it) which was launched in 2018 and got within 3.8 million miles from the sun. It is still active and sending back data about the sun.

 

[Phil G]

Lol'z - Call that local ?

Yes, in comparison to the infinite universe.

Flat earthers are far more arrogant than any scientist. At least scientists admit that they have barely even begun to scratch the surface of understanding the universe. They say that science will eventually find the answers, but that may be thousands of years in the future.

But flat earthers reckon they have it all sewn up. They know it all because “it’s in the Bible”. Well no it isn’t.

And if you think Gods creation is that simple, your little clockwork toy trinket, then that is pure arrogance.

 

[Strong in Him]

Lol'z - Call that local ?

Compared with the vastness of the universe, yes.
Or maybe you think God's too small and wouldn't be able to make a vast universe?

 

[prodromos]

Looking through Expedia the flight times are about the same, an average of 13 hours for both sets of non stop trips, both sets of trips give generally the same times when I just searched right now.

So show the flight paths on your flat earth and tell me how that works. You've posted videos about how emergency landings prove flat earth (which they don't) so you must have what you consider to be a reasonably accurate flat earth map. Plot the flights from Sydney to both L.A. and Santiago and tell me how that works.