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It's weird what people will believe today, why can't they just come to see whats right in front of their eyes ?

There's none so blind as those who will not see.
We see large ships disappearing bottom up as they pass over the horizon and no amount of zooming in causes the bottom of the ships to reappear.
We see that the sun and moon stay exactly the same size from when they rise in the East, to when the reach their zenith, to when they set in the West.
We see only the tops of distant skyscrapers are visible from a distance, but as we get closer more and more of the skyscrapers become visible until we are close enough to see them from base to pinnacle.
Using a water level, we see that the horizon drops more below eye level the higher our elevation.
In the night sky in the Southern Hemisphere we see stars that are not visible in the Northern Hemisphere and vice versa. In the Northern Hemisphere we see the stars rotating counter clockwise around the North Celestial Pole whereas in the Southern Hemisphere we see the stars rotating clockwise around the South Celestial Pole.
We have surveyed the entirety of the continent of Antarctica, having crossed the continent multiple times in the last century.
We have travelled to the moon and back multiple times and placed thousands of satellites in orbit around the earth.

So @Apple Sky , your words are true but only in as far as they relate to you and your ilk.
 
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Me too all day yesterday, I gave up in the end trying to post.
 
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We see large ships disappearing bottom up as they pass over the horizon and no amount of zooming in causes the bottom of the ships to reappear.

Yes it does, this has been proven many times by Rob Skiba.

We have travelled to the moon and back multiple times and placed thousands of satellites in orbit around the earth.

Have you seen them walk on the moon ? If this is the case prove it.
 
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Yes it does, this has been proven many times by Rob Skiba.
Well, it doesn't work for me. When I look out of my window at a ship on the sea, as it reaches the horizon, it gradually disappears, bottom first. Whether I look through binoculars or not, the bottom of the ship does not become visible again. The same with the sun when it sets. If magnification brought the sun back into view once it has set, how ever do astronomers observe the stars through their telescopes, if those same telescopes are bringing the sun back into view?
Have you seen them walk on the moon ? If this is the case prove it.
We have the testimonies of those who have done so, including some Christians.
 
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Like I said,'have you seen them walk on the moon' ?
Have you seen the 'ice wall of Antarctica'?
Have you seen where the 'firmament' touches the earth?
 
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No but I know they are there as God tells me.
There is no 'ice wall' in the Bible. If you heard anyone telling you where 'it' is, it definitely wasn't God.
 
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There is no 'ice wall' in the Bible. If you heard anyone telling you where 'it' is, it definitely wasn't God.
Yes it is God who tells us it is he who shut up the sea with doors Job 38:8
 
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Like I said,'have you seen them walk on the moon' ?
I saw the television broadcasts in 1969. Surely you are not asking if I personally saw the astronauts on the moon with my own eyes.
 
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Yes it is God who tells us it is he who shut uo the sea with doors Job 38:8
But as I have mentioned to you before, that Scripture refers to sea generally, not just the sea around Antarctica. The verse doesn't mention ice walls or Antarctica.
 
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But as I have mentioned to you before, that Scripture refers to sea generally, not just the sea around Antarctica.

Where else could God have bound up the sea so it does't gush forth ?
 
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Where else could God have bound up the sea so it does't gush forth ?
Well, what stops it gushing forth over Wales? Antarctica is not the only place where land and sea meet. I say again, the bible does not mention Antarctica, let alone say that it is surrounded by a huge wall of ice.
 
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I saw the television broadcasts in 1969. Surely you are not asking if I personally saw the astronauts on the moon with my own eyes.

Nobody has seen it with their own eyes, the only verse that comes up in Scripture is 1 Timothy 6:20.
 
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Well, what stops it gushing forth over Wales? Antarctica is not the only place where land and see meet. I say again, the bible does not mention Antarctica, let alone say that it is surrounded by a huge wall of ice.

Okay - Your welcome to believe what you want.
 
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Nobody has seen it with their own eyes, the only verse that comes up in Scripture is 1 Timothy 6:20.
Of course nobody has seen it with their own eyes, except the astronauts who saw each other on the moon. I know you say they are all lying, including the Christians among them, but you have no proof at all that they are lying. I am not sure what 1 Timothy 6:20 has to do with whether I have seen astronauts on the moon. That verse says:

“O Timothy! Guard what was committed to your trust, avoiding the profane and idle babblings and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge—” (1Ti 6:20 NKJV)

Are you accusing me of making profane and idle babblings? I thought I was just answering your question about whether I had seen anybody land on the moon.
 
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Okay - Your welcome to believe what you want.
Fine but you seem to have avoided my question about what stops the sea gushing forth over other places than Antarctica, if, as you claim, the verse about God shutting the sea in refers only to a supposed ice wall around Antarctica.
 
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I know you say they are all lying, including the Christians among them, but you have no proof at all that they are lying.

And you have no proof that they are not telling fairy tales.

Are you accusing me of making profane and idle babblings? I thought I was just answering your question about whether I had seen anybody land on the moon.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I've just quoted a verse.
 
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