The Fundamental Error of Humanism

[WonderBeat]

Heidegger's Turn against Humanism 2 of 3 - YouTube


Do you think the world is a real thing that impinges on your senses? Are your own senses real? How do you premise any of this? Is it self-evident? Or is it rather your primary belief in all these things which makes them seem real? In other words, isn't their reality merely derivable from your thinking that they are real? Holding onto the BE-lief that they are actual? In that, can it not be said you are projecting your own reality, the same way you are in a dream?

Try this experiment. Look at an object, such as a lamp. Insofar as you are looking at it, you are thinking of it. However, if you start thinking of something other than the lamp, does the lamp still exist from where you are? Do you indeed even sense the lamp still, or do you sense some other thought? In this way, it can be plainly seen, that no lamp exists. It is merely your thought of the lamp which causes it to seem to exist.

The issue is, the human gets in the way of true Being, because all Being becomes filtered through the conceptual lens of the Human....


"Man is not the Lord of beings, he is the shepherd of Being...." -Martin Heidegger

 

[Genersis]

Huh?
Oh.
I guess you mean Humanism in the "Human Condition" kinda way?

And not the Humanist approach to life?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Try this experiment. Look at an object, such as a lamp. Insofar as you are looking at it, you are thinking of it. However, if you start thinking of something other than the lamp, does the lamp still exist from where you are?

Try this experiment:

Run out into a busy highway with your eyes shut and thinking about something other than cars and trucks.


Treating reality as just like a dream is Darwin Award material.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Who are you even talking too?

 

[Rajni]

Try this experiment. Look at an object, such as a lamp. Insofar as you are looking at it, you are thinking of it. However, if you start thinking of something other than the lamp, does the lamp still exist from where you are?

Yes, the lamp still exists. My thoughts about the lamp, however cease to exist the minute I begin to think about something else.

Do you indeed even sense the lamp still, or do you sense some other thought?

Depends on how hard I'm concentrating on the other thought. However, the lamp is still there, even if I'm not focusing on it's presence.

In this way, it can be plainly seen, that no lamp exists. It is merely your thought of the lamp which causes it to seem to exist.

The lamp actually exists. It's merely my thought of the lamp which ceases to exist.

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[WonderBeat]

Try this experiment:

Run out into a busy highway with your eyes shut and thinking about something other than cars and trucks.


Treating reality as just like a dream is Darwin Award material.


eudaimonia,

Mark

I will!

 

[Stoneghost]

Do you think the world is a real thing that impinges on your senses? Are your own senses real? How do you premise any of this? Is it self-evident? Or is it rather your primary belief in all these things which makes them seem real? In other words, isn't their reality merely derivable from your thinking that they are real? Holding onto the BE-lief that they are actual? In that, can it not be said you are projecting your own reality, the same way you are in a dream?

The "belief" in the validity of the sense is evidence based. It is based on the consequences of our actions and interactions in the physical world. This form of epistomology has nothing to do with humanism despite what the video might claim.

 

[Paradoxum]

Holding onto the BE-lief that they are actual?

Why do you say 'belief' like this?

In that, can it not be said you are projecting your own reality, the same way you are in a dream?

It can be said but I have no reason to think it true.

Try this experiment. Look at an object, such as a lamp. Insofar as you are looking at it, you are thinking of it. However, if you start thinking of something other than the lamp, does the lamp still exist from where you are? Do you indeed even sense the lamp still, or do you sense some other thought? In this way, it can be plainly seen, that no lamp exists. It is merely your thought of the lamp which causes it to seem to exist.

Or your brain is simply paying more attention to the thought than perception. It makes sense that there is only so much that the conscious mind can thought about at one time. Perhaps it can only think about one thing at any one time.

I will!

I hope your joking, but if not please don't.

 

[Rajni]

I will!

WonderBeat, I sure hope you didn't... the fact that it seems you haven't been on CF since the day you posted this is a tad unsettling... :o

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[Genersis]

WonderBeat, I sure hope you didn't... the fact that it seems you haven't been on CF since the day you posted this is a tad unsettling... :o

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Yikes!
I second that.:o

 

[razeontherock]

I will!

Step. away. from. the. bong!

 

[WonderBeat]

Yikes!
I second that.:o

LOL.

Nope.

Well... Maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3tgmXgTp6f8&NR=1

 

[Rajni]

LOL.

Nope.

Well... Maybe.

Whew!
Welcome back, WonderBeat!!


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