The Flood -

[lightencandle]

Is it at all possable that the Flood described in Gen. was just a "myth" used to portray an image about God, who will reward the righteous, but punish the wicked?

 

[Cleany]

it is very possible. it is also very possible that something like it actually happened, and they made a lesson out of it.

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

No- a Golbal Flood has never happened.
Visit the Creation and Evolution forum and read all the threads on this.

 

[Abbadon]

Wait, visit the Creation and Evolution forum on THIS site?

For accurate info?

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

Wait, visit the Creation and Evolution forum on THIS site?

For accurate info?

Absolutely. It's a Wonderful forum to see myths decimated with facts. I don't know how anyone can come away from that forum without learning why things such as the Great Flood could not have possible ever happened.

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

In fact, there's an ongoing and interesting floold related thread now.

 

[stumpjumper]

It is likely that there was a local flood in the Black Sea when the Bosphorus straight collapsed but certainly not a world-wide flood...

Could of even been a guy named Noah involved

 

[TScott]

The flood story in the Bible is a re-write of a similar story found in the Babylonian epic, The Gilgamesh. The Gilgamesh was written between 500 and a thousand years before the Noah story, but the similarities in the two are striking.

There were probably many floods in the region.

 

[outlaw]

If memory serves the flood myth entered the Hebrew tradition when the Jews were held in captivity in Babylon about 2,500 years ago….prior to that the flood myth was part of that culture.

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

Right. And as with all great myths there is usually some bases in real events. Universal Flood myths are no exception.

 

[Soul_Searcher]

Hi Lightencandle,

"Is it at all possible that the Flood described in Gen. was just a "myth" used to portray an image about God, who will reward the righteous, but punish the wicked?"

Not only possible, but probable. The physical parameters of Noah's instructions were impossible. There is no evidence for a global flood in the geological record, nor is there any way for that much water to fall and then disappear. Flood stories abound in ancient traditions and mythology, and it only makes sense that people who saw lightning and thought it was from God (however they defined God) would think a flood was a punishment from God also.

 

[lightencandle]

Hi Lightencandle,

"Is it at all possible that the Flood described in Gen. was just a "myth" used to portray an image about God, who will reward the righteous, but punish the wicked?"

Not only possible, but probable. The physical parameters of Noah's instructions were impossible. There is no evidence for a global flood in the geological record, nor is there any way for that much water to fall and then disappear. Flood stories abound in ancient traditions and mythology, and it only makes sense that people who saw lightning and thought it was from God (however they defined God) would think a flood was a punishment from God also.

Hi people, and thank you for replying. Yes, what you have said is what I am leaning with, and have been. I was trying to get some fundies in here to see what they would say. I feel that a lot of Christians would feel that their religion would be violated if this story turned out to be symbolic. It shouldn't, but you know how some people are.

Now if you will excuse me, I need to go, umm, feed my dog.

 

[non-religious]

[lightencandle] I feel that a lot of Christians would feel that their religion would be violated if this story turned out to be symbolic. It shouldn't, but you know how some people are.

I agree with you here, but I can see why people can and will feel that their faith in God is somehow violated if this story were symbolic. Kinda similar to the story of Jonah or the countless other episodes in the Bible (especially the OT) that describe bizarre events. Some people really do sincerely want to base their faith on God based upon what they consider literal events in the Bible. There may be a part of burying ones head in the sand taking place, but if it's important to their walk with God, more power to them

 

[Soul_Searcher]

Hi Candle,

"Is it at all possable that the Flood described in Gen. was just a "myth" used to portray an image about God, who will reward the righteous, but punish the wicked?"

Not only possible, but probable. The legend spans religions and cultures, and probably predating Noah.

 

[Caylin]

I thought the flood was stopped by the guy in power armor.

 

[KCDAD]

Absolutely. It's a Wonderful forum to see myths decimated with facts. I don't know how anyone can come away from that forum without learning why things such as the Great Flood could not have possible ever happened.

... and see other facts decimating those facts...

facts facts facts... everybody's got facts! There are more facts than there are truths.

 

[KCDAD]

The flood story in the Bible is a re-write of a similar story found in the Babylonian epic, The Gilgamesh. The Gilgamesh was written between 500 and a thousand years before the Noah story, but the similarities in the two are striking.

There were probably many floods in the region.

If you read Gilgamesh, you will see there are very few similiarities between the two tales... water, a boat, animals... that, they have in common. The Enuma Elish is another interesting tale from pre-Hebrew times. They are both rather short... and weird.

 

[Army of Juan]

... and see other facts decimating those facts...

I've never seen that.

 

[Army of Juan]

If you read Gilgamesh, you will see there are very few similiarities between the two tales... water, a boat, animals... that, they have in common. The Enuma Elish is another interesting tale from pre-Hebrew times. They are both rather short... and weird.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/noah_com.htm

 

[Mailman Dan]

Is it at all possable that the Flood described in Gen. was just a "myth" used to portray an image about God, who will reward the righteous, but punish the wicked?

As some Liberals have already mentioned, it is possibile there was a flood, and some scientist believe that.

However, ask yourself this. What grounds to you have to say there was no flood? If your going to deny "those parts" of scripture, what other parts are you going to deny? How about genology lines, which are clear in scripture? What about the ten commandments? What about specfic things Jesus said about how we should live, like loving our enemies?


What parts are you willing to toss out, as many others have?


This is what the NT, and Jesus, said about the flood..

Matthew 24:38
For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,

Matthew 24:39
and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Luke 17:27
They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.

2 Peter 2:5
and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;


Understand, we live in a time when many will openly deny the words of Jesus, thinking themselves wise. The bible told us this would also happen.

2 Peter 3:5-7 (New King James Version)

For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


So what do you want to cut out of scripture?


Dan~~~>holds the whole bible as meaningfull and valid