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The Flat Earth Myth

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amazing, i've never heard of him, lol.
LOL.

That's because you didn't read the opening post.

If you'd read the Gould paper, which you obviously didn't, you would have heard of him.
 
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It is true that scholars have accepted the spherical nature of the Earth for thousands of years. Most unscholarly people scorned the idea as nonsense. There are still some of them around.

Just so, 99% of those in the biological and geological sciences accept the fact of evolution. Those who know little or nothing of these sciences scorn the conclusions of scientists and scholars as nonsense.

The ignorant and unskilled tend to overestimate their skills and knowledge in inverse proportion to their actual knowledge. This is known as the "Dunning-Kruger Effect".

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Why are you afraid of scientific citations and references?
lol yes that must be it, it couldn't be your argument is a complete farce.

by the way i don't see scientific citations or references, unless quote-mines and straw-men define scientific citations and references to you now? i mean i wouldn't put it past you, you do love that semantic slight-of-hand game you play.
 
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LOL.

That's because you didn't read the opening post.

If you'd read the Gould paper, which you obviously didn't, you would have heard of him.
sure i did, i don't see any quotes from the guy. i didn't realize i had to debate with a pdf file and not a human being.

are you so out out of ammo that you can't even present an argument anymore? oh wait, coming from the guy who just copypastas the same worn-out poorly understood quote-mines, i guess not.

by the way your argument is a total distortion of what gould is talking about. he uses the flat-earth as a lead-in to a myth that science and religion are in conflict.
the first part about the flat-earth is to point out that so called "dark-age" believers did know the earth was round and had no conflict with early science.

in fact he references a lot of false made up stuff that many groups think are true, like the "noble savage" crap from the 19th century.
the reason, which you fail to grasp or even attempt to grasp is to reference the so called belief that science and religion are in conflict, which wasn't remotely true.
just like the flat-earth, the rivalry between the two is nothing but a 18th century fabrication.

given that he says so in the text!
This essay has discussed a double myth in the annals of our bad habits in false categorization: (1) the flat-earth legend as support for a biased ordering of Western history as a story in redemption from classical to Dark to Medieval to Renaissance; and (2) the invention of the flat-earth myth to support a false dichotomization of Western history as another story of progress, a war of victorious science over religion.
yeah i didn't read the pdf, now i did and what you said is wrong.

as for cosmas indicopleustes, he is referenced ONCE in the text, and you claimed he had influence in "darwinian circles". i've never bloody heard of the guy! so you are wrong! seems you are looking in the mirror when you accuse people of not reading posts. try reading what i wrote in context, or is that too much to ask?
 
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