" The Fig Tree"

[Friendlyneighbor101]

Hey everyone If I could have a moment of your time. Could you flip to page Matthew 24,verse 32 so I can ask you all this question.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twig gets tender and its leaves comes out (Reblossem) you know the summer is near. Even so when you see all these things, you know that it is near at the door. I tell you the truth this generation will cerainly not pass away untill alll these things have happend, Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.

I dont think god was talking about any old fig tree I believe he was talking about Israeli, when it is destoryed and conqured and then reforms the time will be near.

Israeil reformed the nation in 1948 with the help of the U.N (if I have not misunderstood this passage 40's generation will see the coming of christ).

 

[Easystreet]

Hey everyone If I could have a moment of your time. Could you flip to page Matthew 24,verse 32 so I can ask you all this question.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twig gets tender and its leaves comes out (Reblossem) you know the summer is near. Even so when you see all these things, you know that it is near at the door. I tell you the truth this generation will cerainly not pass away untill alll these things have happend, Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.

I dont think god was talking about any old fig tree I believe he was talking about Israeli, when it is destoryed and conqured and then reforms the time will be near.

Israeil reformed the nation in 1948 with the help of the U.N (if I have not misunderstood this passage 40's generation will see the coming of christ).

"Tell us, when will these things happen, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"


First go back to the beginning of the Chapter. Notice the following “ Tell us, when will these things happen, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

Three Things:

1. When these things will happen (Jesus does not answer this question about the temple being destroyed in 70 AD.


2. The sing of Your coming (Jesus gives a general overview down to the verse 14) A broad sweeping answer that covers from then to the end.


3. The end of the age (vs. 15-31) These verses are dealing with the Tribulation or the 70 week of Daniel known as the 7 year Tribulation and specifically Jacob’s Trouble, the great tribulation. A tribulation so bad that there is none like it. 4/5 of all humanity will perish during this terrible time prior to the Second Coming of Christ.


4. Look carefully at vs. 32-44. Two key statements in this parable. “34. "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” The generation that is living during at the rapture of the church and the 70th week of Daniel or the 7 year tribulation.

And “40. "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.”

Those left are saved Jews and Gentiles at the end of the Tribulation. The lost are taken and cast into hell. The Save are left to enter the 1000 year kingdom. Only Saved Gentiles and Jews will enter the 1000 kingdom.

The Church will return with Christ in the Second Coming. All Old Testament and Tribulation saints will be raised and be in the 1000 year kingdom too. Those looking for Christ Second Coming are the saved Jews and Gentiles left on the face of the earth at the end of the Tribulation.

This is the correct interpretation of these passages. The time of the end in closer today. Time is winding down to the Rapture and the fulfillment of these passages.
God Bless
Love Always Finds A Way

 

[Friendlyneighbor101]

Thank you , Jordon that was very detailed and as I thought I seem to always miss a small but crucial detail when I hit my microphone and shout!!!

JESUS IS COMING JESUS IS COMING!!

 

[Driver]

Hey everyone If I could have a moment of your time. Could you flip to page Matthew 24,verse 32 so I can ask you all this question.

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twig gets tender and its leaves comes out (Reblossem) you know the summer is near. Even so when you see all these things, you know that it is near at the door. I tell you the truth this generation will cerainly not pass away untill alll these things have happend, Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.

I dont think god was talking about any old fig tree I believe he was talking about Israeli, when it is destoryed and conqured and then reforms the time will be near.

Israeil reformed the nation in 1948 with the help of the U.N (if I have not misunderstood this passage 40's generation will see the coming of christ).

The key is how you interpret "this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened".

Was Christ talking about the disciple's generation in which he was speaking (approximately AD 30) or to the generation of 1948?

If a generation is 40 years, AD 70 would be the end of the generation of AD 30. And 1988 would be the end of the generation of 1948. (Many predicted the rapture would occur in 1988 (or 1981), based on the founding of the State of Israel)

It is a plainer reading of the text, that Jesus was referring to the generation of AD30. (He said "this generation, not that generation".

In consistency with this interpretation, the fig tree would likely refer to the destruction of the Jewish nation (Jerusalem and the Temple) by Titus and the Romans in AD70.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The key is how you interpret "this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened".

Was Christ talking about the disciple's generation in which he was speaking (approximately AD 30) or to the generation of 1948?

If a generation is 40 years, AD 70 would be the end of the generation of AD 30. And 1988 would be the end of the generation of 1948. (Many predicted the rapture would occur in 1988 (or 1981), based on the founding of the State of Israel)

It is a plainer reading of the text, that Jesus was referring to the generation of AD30. (He said "this generation, not that generation".

In consistency with this interpretation, the fig tree would likely refer to the destruction of the Jewish nation (Jerusalem and the Temple) by Titus and the Romans in AD70.

I agree. The Priesthood that Jesus and Paul railed against disappeared into the sunset after that event.
What is your view on Ezekiel 39?

Matt 23:31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' [guilt.] 33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of gehenna? 34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes:

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying Them, in order to cleanse/purify the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD

 

[Driver]

I agree. The Priesthood that Jesus and Paul railed against disappeared into the sunset after that event.
What is your view on Ezekiel 39?

Matt 23:31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' [guilt.] 33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of gehenna? 34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes:

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying Them, in order to cleanse/purify the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD

The prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and 39 could have been an apocalyptic reference to the Scythian invasions of Ezekiel's time and fulfilled in the defeat of the Assyrian invaders of Palestine by Judas Maccabeus.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I agree. The Priesthood that Jesus and Paul railed against disappeared into the sunset after that event.
What is your view on Ezekiel 39?

Matt 23:31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' [guilt.] 33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of gehenna? 34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes:

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying Them, in order to cleanse/purify the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD

The prophecy of Ezekiel 38 and 39 could have been an apocalyptic reference to the Scythian invasions of Ezekiel's time and fulfilled in the defeat of the Assyrian invaders of Palestine by Judas Maccabeus.

Possible, but not likely. That is the same event shown in the book of Revelation after the Cross it seems. Some say it could have been the destruction of Jerusalem and the OC Jewish Temple/Priesthood in the first century. Don't really know. Pece.

Reve 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, "Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, 18 "that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men,

Ezekiel 39:17 " And as for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Speak to every sort of bird and to every beast of the field: "Assemble yourselves and come; Gather together from all sides to My sacrificial meal Which I am sacrificing for you, A great sacrificial meal on the mountains of Israel, That you may eat flesh and drink blood.

http://www.godfire.net/farabove.htm

The Son of Man was far above their garnished heaven, and they were swept away by the force of His heavenly power. He passed through their kingdom in A.D. 70, spoiled their day, and rolled it up like a scroll. And I never cease to marvel at seeing so many in secular religion joining ranks with that cursed tree. In their melding, they are doing everything in their power to help it to bring forth. But it will not happen. For we are promised by Jesus that the Jews' tree will never again bear fruit:
"And when He saw a fig tree in the way, He came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only (a lot of fluff but no substance), and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever (or, into the age). And presently the fig tree withered away." (Mat 21:19). Have you seen any fruit of Christ growing on that Jewish tree anytime during this age? For, you see, their covenant with God was disannulled when they broke it at their rejection and crucifixion of Jesus. We must know it is only in and from Him that the fruit of the Kingdom can come.

 

[gwynedd1]

"Tell us, when will these things happen, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"


First go back to the beginning of the Chapter. Notice the following “ Tell us, when will these things happen, and what {will be} the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

Three Things:

1. When these things will happen (Jesus does not answer this question about the temple being destroyed in 70 AD.


2. The sing of Your coming (Jesus gives a general overview down to the verse 14) A broad sweeping answer that covers from then to the end.


3. The end of the age (vs. 15-31) These verses are dealing with the Tribulation or the 70 week of Daniel known as the 7 year Tribulation and specifically Jacob’s Trouble, the great tribulation. A tribulation so bad that there is none like it. 4/5 of all humanity will perish during this terrible time prior to the Second Coming of Christ.


4. Look carefully at vs. 32-44. Two key statements in this parable. “34. "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.” The generation that is living during at the rapture of the church and the 70th week of Daniel or the 7 year tribulation.

And “40. "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.”

Those left are saved Jews and Gentiles at the end of the Tribulation. The lost are taken and cast into hell. The Save are left to enter the 1000 year kingdom. Only Saved Gentiles and Jews will enter the 1000 kingdom.

The Church will return with Christ in the Second Coming. All Old Testament and Tribulation saints will be raised and be in the 1000 year kingdom too. Those looking for Christ Second Coming are the saved Jews and Gentiles left on the face of the earth at the end of the Tribulation.

This is the correct interpretation of these passages. The time of the end in closer today. Time is winding down to the Rapture and the fulfillment of these passages.
God Bless
Love Always Finds A Way

The Scofield dross....Unfortunatly I believed the same once. However Israel was a nation in 1948. 1988 was 18 years ago. Israel is a secular state that has nothing to do with God at the moment.
Over and over again 40 years is a generation. What did come to pass in that generation? 70 AD, the destuction of the temple and the complete destruction of Jerusalem.

Num 32
13: And the LORD's anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.



Now the Day of the Lord does NOT fit 70 AD. A third was saved and they recognized Christ.


Zech 12
10: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Zech 13

7: Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9: And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Lets look at Luke 21

This is Jacobs trouble in 70 AD

20: And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22: For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23: But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

This is the time of the gentiles

24: And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26: Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

This is the day of the Lord

27: And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28: And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
29: And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30: When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31: So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.



Naturally all IMHO.

But the 40 year generation and the destuction of Jerusalem seems quite clear that up verse 24 it is fulfilled.

3. The end of the age (vs. 15-31) These verses are dealing with the Tribulation or the 70 week of Daniel known as the 7 year Tribulation and specifically Jacob’s Trouble, the great tribulation. A tribulation so bad that there is none like it. 4/5 of all humanity will perish during this terrible time prior to the Second Coming of Christ.


If 4/5 of humanity die out in Jacob's trouble then it would be human's trouble. Jacob had plenty of trouble in 70 AD but the rest of humanity was the usual. The day of the Lord is what is spoken of in Revelation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Weren't the Judeans/Jews considered the Fig Tree and Israel the Olive Tree?

Notice in Hosea 14 where the Lord refers to Israel as "He" and as an Olive Tree. A fig tree bears "fruit" while an olive tree bears "oil". [note "2 witnesses in revelation as "olive trees"]

I believe Messianics try tell us we are grafted into the Judeans/Judah and thus we are under the Law of Moses. I think not, as Christ appears to say in Matt 21:43 that the Kingdom was taken from the Judean Nation and given to All Israel, with Christ being the "Israel of God"? Another words, there was Natural Israel and those outside of the Covenant of Israel.
Thoughts?

Mark 11:20 Now in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.

Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation [#1484 ethnos] bearing the fruits of it.

Romans 11:17 And if certain of the branches were broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wast graffed in among them, and a fellow-partaker of the root and of the fatness of the olive tree didst become--

Hosea 14:4 " I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, For My anger has turned away from him. 5 I will be like the dew to Israel; He shall grow like the lily, And lengthen his roots like Lebanon. 6 His branches shall spread; His beauty shall be like an olive tree, And his fragrance like Lebanon.