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"The Antichrist’s cohort is known to God as the False Prophet."
--Hal Lindsey
And this theory is anti-scriptural... but people have been copying it for decades.
Matthew 11:7-10 For this is [he], of whom it is written, Behold, I send My messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
The kings of the earth assemble, gather their armies at Armageddon. It is a staging place.
No, I did not say, nor claim, that they survive to attack Jerusalem. Why are you twisting my words?It's not a staging place, it's the final destination. The entire army dies at Armageddon. You claim they somehow survive to attack Jerusalem. That is impossible according to Revelation 19.
Armageddon is not the Second Coming. The Second Coming brings Christ the Prince to Jerusalem years before Armageddon. Armageddon only happens if a 42 months is necessary. 42 months is for the gleanings after the final harvest. The gleanings will be those beheaded. This final harvest is to remove mankind from earth. If no one is left to remove, then the winepress at the ceremonial end will still happen even if Satan does not get 42 months. The 7th Trumpet sounds before Revelation 13. Revelation 13 only happens if the week of the 7th Trumpet is split in half. This is the gap in Daniel 9:27. The gap is only 42 months. Daniel 9:27 is not the fulness of the Gentiles. It is not the last 1992 years. The 42 months is the period of utter desolation mentioned in Daniel 9:27.Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
The only army that leaves Armageddon and goes to Jerusalem is Christ and his army.
Where are you coming up with that view ?Armageddon is not the Second Coming. The Second Coming brings Christ the Prince to Jerusalem years before Armageddon. Armageddon only happens if a 42 months is necessary.
The kings of the earth assemble, gather their armies at Armageddon. It is a staging place. Of course the numbers will be so large that the armies spreads out to most of Israel. Not all will be in Jerusalem, when they are killed. (Revelation 14:20)
In Joel, there will also be them in the valley of Jehoshaphat, which is the Kidron river valley (look it up on the internet to learn more).
Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
Joel 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Armageddon is not the Second Coming.
Matthew 13 has Christ with the angels on the earth for the final harvest.Where are you coming up with that view ?
It is a return after a 42 month event. It is not the Second Coming after the NT church has been brought to an end. The church set up at Pentecost will not be on earth after the 6th Seal. The 6th Seal is the Second Coming, that closes the harvest of the NT church. That is clearly established in Revelation 7, even before the 7th Seal is opened. No more church on earth after the Lamb's book of life is opened. It is the final harvest, and names start being removed. The church was sealed, completed, and glorified at the 5th and 6th Seal. It can no longer participate on earth, until the New Jerusalem comes down in the NHNE. There is still a 1,000 year period left until that happens.It is the second coming. Jesus literally comes out of heaven and comes there (with an army of His own) and destroys an army from the sky.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Megiddo was the place of many battles, and Elijah stood on Mount Carmel against Jezebel's false prophets. You make one very valid point by quoting that verse, because it's something I keep coming back to.The kings of the earth assemble, gather their armies at Armageddon. It is a staging place. Of course the numbers will be so large that the armies spreads out to most of Israel. Not all will be in Jerusalem, when they are killed. (Revelation 14:20)
So for the person to be the Antichrist - he has to become the King of Israel coming in his own name.
Before putting "Anti" in front of Christ, the functional role of Christ in the scriptures is ....
John 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
John 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,
13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
So for the person to be the Antichrist - he has to become the King of Israel coming in his own name.
The little horn person is of the fourth kingdom in Daniel 7 as well as the ten kings. So obviously, the little horn person does NOT start as the Antichrist, King of Israel, coming in his own name. But goes through a transitional of role as the prince who shall come to becoming the King of Israel, coming in his own name.
little horn, prince who shall come, Antichrist, revealed man of sin, beast - are not just different names for the person - but are different functional roles the person goes through on the way to his destruction.
No, Doug, no, what you are preaching will NEVER happen. In fact, according prophecy, he will manifest himself as MESSIAH, a false messiah, of course, AN IMPOSTOR, understand? -John 5:v.43-47 combined with Revelation 13:v.11 - he will manifest himself as a LAMB with two horns, a false LAMB, of course, and he speak as Dragon. It is he who will be the main guide of the ESOTERIC and kabbalistic, and spiritist JUDAISM, as a Prophet and Master of Torah, and he will be the RULER of Israel as messiah, NOT as King, as you say erroneously.
If a person remembers this sequence, the end time prophecies about the arch villain will all make sense.John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto Him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king: to this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth My voice.
What you're saying here finally made some sense to me, Douggg. The little horn is a king, simply because horns are kings... whether or not they have crowns is immaterial, since crowns became a new thing even in the ancient kingdom of Britain. This little-horn-king rises up after the 10, and by wounding 3 of the horns, becomes the 8th king.
I think the prince who shall come is the prince of this world, though. Michael is called a prince, in Daniel. And Psalms 82:7 (LXX) says "Ye are gods, and all of you the children of the Most High; but ye die as men, and fall as one of the princes." This prince is the dragon who falls with his angels. Revelation 12:15-16... the Earth opening her mouth is the earthquake that causes the remnant (their enemies) to give glory to God (Revelation 11:11-12) and splits the mountain.
These two next verses are talking about the same endtime event.
--- The first set of servants in Matthew, below, must be the two witnesses. This would make the second set of servants the remnant evangelizing the multitude for the glass sea.
--- Daniel seems to be talking about three separate events and three different people, separated by colons: Jesus, the armies of the beast, the remnant. Because Daniel's "cut off with a flood" must be a different event from Revelation 12:15-16... nobody got cut off with that flood. But often, floods of people are meant.
Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one shall be destroyed, and there is no judgment in Him: and He shall destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince that is coming: they shall be cut off with a flood, and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed He shall appoint the city to desolations.LXX
Matthew 22:6-8 And the remnant took His servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]. 7 But when the King heard [thereof], He was wroth: and He sent forth His armies and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith He to His servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
So, at some point in time, the armies of the beast are in Jerusalem. Think about what this means.
The harlot is Vatican in Rome, present in the nations through the RCC.... will be burnt to the ground by the ten EU leaders at the time of the beast.
I used to laugh at the idea of a revived Roman Empire. But now I think they're a tiny bit correct. The "Holy Roman Empire"(HRE) came to Germany, and apparently went to Russia, too. And this IS what became of the Roman Empire, after all... you can see it in the HRE title. The Lateran Treaty healed the wound of Rome and at the same time crippled Italy.
Matthew 13 has Christ with the angels on the earth for the final harvest.
There are 3 groups harvested. There are 3 types of judgments in Revelation. The church is covered by the Seals, and leaves first at the Second Coming in the 6th Seal. Which also brings the angels to earth.
The Trumpets are the gathering of Israel out of all nations. Matthew 25. This is the harvest of the sheep and goats. This is after Christ the Prince sets up His throne in His Temple in Jerusalem. During the Trumpets the seeds are being sown per Matthew 13 for the final group harvested, the wheat and the tares during the Thunders. The 7th Trumpet is the celebration at the end. It is a week long event, ending in the winepress of Revelation 14. A week of days per Daniel 9:27, Revelation 10:7.
If necessary for any gleanings after the final harvest, then there is Satan's 42 months. That is why we get an AoD. That is why Jerusalem is abandoned. Armageddon is the final judgment of the 7 vials to end this kingdom set up by Satan called mystery Babylon. If there is no 42 months, there is no need for an AoD, or any part of Revelation 13, 15-19. And no need for a return at Armageddon. The winepress in Revelation 14 is the end of the 7th Trumpet celebration. Revelation 14 is symbolic of the final harvest being brought to a close. None of Adam's flesh and blood are alive at that point.
In Matthew 24, Jesus gives us the history from the Cross to the end in verses 4-14.
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
Then Jesus gives us 4 specific events:
The AoD.
Time of greatest tribulation ever.
The Second Coming.
The fig tree sign.
The fig tree is not the last event in that list. Yet it is the generation that would live to see all the other 3 events, or at least a few would still be alive until the very end. So you still have a set of 4 like John gave us a set of 4. You still have 3 groups and 3 events.
The 0T prophets and prophecies are all Israel centered. None of them allow for a NT church. Not even Daniel 9:26. It never states the Gentile church is part of Messiah being cut off. Not even Christ hints at a prolonged NT Gentile church in the OD. There is no way the church is going to be recognized as a group in the OT nor the OD. The only thing we are given in Matthew 24 is verse 14.
"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
So even according to the work of the 12 apostles that could have been seen completed in their lifetimes. Yet John receives a whole set of Revelations that are now centered around 7 churches and what they are going to do with this information. But even then, Israel is still the central theme and still no knowledge is leaked that there would be a 1900+ years long fulness of the Gentiles NT church, while Israel is set to the side, and obviously in 70AD scattered to the 4 corners of the world.
The fig tree sign would be lost on all. The order in Matthew would be lost as well. Now all people could do was try to understand 70AD according to Revelation itself. Certainly no order but only tribulation itself would be gained from the OD in light of 70AD.
There is only one final harvest. The sheep and goats are during the Trumpets. The wheat and tares are during the Thunders. A series of 13 events that are chronologically in order leading up to the 7th Trumpet.There are only 2 harvests, the wheat and the tares are the lambs and the goats. The second of each set is the "vine of the earth" that is gathered and dropped into the winepress of wrath. Several different names for the same people are given, all through the Old Testament and in the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven.
The beast, the little-horn, the anti-christ, the false-prophet... they're all the same vine-of-the-earth. This is the fourth beast of Daniel and the composite beast of Revelation.
"In the US the highest law of the land is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
in the Vatican State the Constitution is called the Code of Canon Law"
The Roman Empire never fell! - James Japan
There is only one final harvest. The sheep and goats are during the Trumpets.
The harvest of the sheep is a judgment wrapped up into a gathering. It is a harvest because those souls are going to their final destination: Eternal Life or eternal damnation. It is the end of their physical journey in Adam's flesh and blood.The sheep and goats is not a harvest. It's a separation. The wheat and tares is really a separating as well but since wheat is mentioned then harvesting it is appropriate language.
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