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The evolutionist tradition of concealing fossils

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The evolutionist tradition of concealing fossils

Darwinism is such terrible a lie that,

  • For 150 years it convinced people that living things had evolved.

  • It convinced people they were descended from ape-likes.

  • The theory was treated as a scientific one, even though it possessed not a shred of scientific evidence.

  • Efforts were made to give the impression that intermediate forms existed, though not a single one has ever been found.

  • Although not a single protein has ever been manufactured in the laboratory, the diversity of life was still ascribed to chance.

  • All of humanity was indoctrinated with the lie that unconscious, uncontrolled, inanimate atoms combined together in a random manner and gave rise to states, civilisations and scientists who examine their own cells in the laboratory.

  • In doing all this, of course, it used only lies, fraud and demagoguery.

Darwinism is such a terrible lie that the proponents of this ideology had no hesitation over producing hoax fossils and exhibiting these for 40 years. Darwinists have made a habit of resorting to fraud in order to invent intermediate fossils. They have no reluctance over taking fossils of perfect living things and using them to invent a whole evolutionary scenario. They have countless scenarios about the imaginary first cell, but they are unable to account for the emergence of even one of that imaginary cell’s thousands of proteins. They say that mutations cause evolution, but they have been unable to endow a single living thing with any advantageous trait by way of mutation even in the controlled laboratory environment.

For that reason, they have sought a solution in fraud. Helpless in the face of the fossil record’s failure to support their theory, Darwinists have taken fossils belonging to flawless life forms and interpreted them according to their own desires, and have even resorted to blatant fraud.

They manufactured the Piltdown Man hoax, exhibited for 40 years, by adding the jaw bone of a recently deceased orang utan to a human skull, and the Nebraska Man fraud by producing representations of him and his supposed family on the basis of a single boar’s tooth. They have engaged in propaganda to the effect that natural selection causes evolution, by adding feathers to dinosaur fossils or pinning peppered moths to the trunks of trees. For years, the portrayed the Coelacanth as an intermediate form, and were surprised when it transpired that the creature was still alive today. They came up with an imaginary “scenario of equine evolution,” although horse fossils dating back 53 million years were identical to horses alive today, but eventually had to confess that this, too, was a fraud.

They tried to use hoax embryo drawings to explain the supposed evolution of man. But they then had to retract that false scenario when Haeckel, the author of the drawings, admitted that “many hoaxes had been perpetrated in the name of the theory of evolution, and that he therefore had no compunctions about doing so.”

In short, Darwinism is a lie. EVOLUTIONISTS FEEL THE NECESSITY TO CONCEAL FOSSILS because their hoaxes have constantly been exposed, and because all genuine fossils refute evolution.

to be continued!

 

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No, it would be great if it was being ironic, but it is a cut and paste from a Creationist website.
yes, usually, I mention the sources but this time I forgot.
well, the writer is harun Yahya who has written too many books and produced many films against atheism and the theory of evolution.
he has written an encyclopedy "the atlas of creation" wich had a great echo in europe specially. it tries to show by scientific and experimental proofs that the evolution is a fraud (sorry again for the irony :D)

well, i prefer to give you the URL for the article:

us3.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/9149/THE_EVOLUTIONIST_TRADITION_OF_CONCEALING_FOSSILS

and here is a fossil musem:
fossil-museum.com/

(sorry , I cannot post complete URLs yet :( )
 
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Fossils are a huge part of Darwinism. While what have are organisms adapting within set limits and the detriments of random mutation, the fossil record is turned to to show that they can adapt indefinitely through random mutations. The reason the fossil record overturns all evidence we gather, is because if organisms were created, they should be all together. Needless to say that this is not even an argument, and when you begin to amass fossils which are in place in reality, but out of place in Darwinism, you must understand the gravity of these finds.
 
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Souha wrote:

Darwinism is a lie. EVOLUTIONISTS FEEL THE NECESSITY TO CONCEAL FOSSILS because their hoaxes have constantly been exposed, and because all genuine fossils refute evolution.

Um, so that's why evolution supporters have build hundreds of natural history museums worldwide to permanently exhibit thousands of fossils for millions of people to see? If that's "concealing" something, then someone must have switched definitions on me.

Souha, Welcome to the forums! You'll learn a lot.

You may want to lean a bit on a few topics right away, before posting much more:

1. Learn about harun yahya. He's a scheister who has made millions of dollars by misleading Muslims, gaining wealth, fame and power. His creationism is well known to be filled with outright lies. Not only that, he is a cult leader who sexually abuses dozens of women. Here is a quote from an article on Harun Yahya:
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']The social organisation within the group was becoming rigidly hierarchical and, as is common in messianic cults, sexual relations were tightly controlled, with the putative messiah (Harun Yahya) given access denied to others. Oktar (Harun Yahya) considered all female members his legitimate possession. Berk, a recent defector after seven years, describes the groups: “There were sisters (bacilar), concubines (cariyeler) and brothers (kardesler), the male members. The brothers were allowed to marry the concubines, while the sisters were all married to Adnan Hodja.” (Harun Yahya). Of course these marriages were not legal, but they were treated as such within the group. As with Scientology, discipline was maintained through humiliation, the threat of expulsion and physical violence. “I know personally,” Berk told me, “that Oktar beats the sisters.”[/FONT]
From : Halil Arda - Sex, flies and videotape: the secret lives of Harun Yahya | New Humanist#

Quoting his material destroys your credibility. Following him destroys your mind.

2. Learn about at least some of the evidence supporting evolution so you don't continue to post demonstrably false statements that make you look gullible. You can start by learning some of the evidence here:

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: the Scientific Case for Common Descent

3. Learn what Poe's law is. You have already been suspected of being a Poe, though I'm not convinced you are. List of eponymous laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Also, it's nice to meet you!

Papias
 
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Souha wrote:



Um, so that's why evolution supporters have build hundreds of natural history museums worldwide to permanently exhibit thousands of fossils for millions of people to see? If that's "concealing" something, then someone must have switched definitions on me.

Souha, Welcome to the forums! You'll learn a lot.

You may want to lean a bit on a few topics right away, before posting much more:

1. Learn about harun yahya. He's a scheister who has made millions of dollars by misleading Muslims, gaining wealth, fame and power. His creationism is well known to be filled with outright lies. Not only that, he is a cult leader who sexually abuses dozens of women. Here is a quote from an article on Harun Yahya:


Quoting his material destroys your credibility. Following him destroys your mind.

2. Learn about at least some of the evidence supporting evolution so you don't continue to post demonstrably false statements that make you look gullible. You can start by learning some of the evidence here:



3. Learn what Poe's law is. You have already been suspected of being a Poe, though I'm not convinced you are.


Also, it's nice to meet you!

Papias

It is nice to meet you too, Papias.

well, I may still answer. I will not base my threads on harun yahya's works any more, as that destroys my cridibility. :D

I think that I didn't choose the right moment to post those threads. I promess to reply you with more convincing arguments and continue the debate after my exams, if I survive of course ;)
 
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It is nice to meet you too, Papias.

well, I may still answer. I will not base my threads on harun yahya's works any more, as that destroys my cridibility. :D

I think that I didn't choose the right moment to post those threads. I promess to reply you with more convincing arguments and continue the debate after my exams, if I survive of course ;)


Your best bet is even if you gather information from elsewhere put them in your own words, your more likly to get responses if people see you least have thought about it yourself rather then C/ping.
 
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The evolutionist tradition of concealing fossils

I would agree that every chimpanzee skull dug up in Africa is passed off as one of our ancestors. I mean, at least since the Piltdown thing was exposed.

Darwinism is such terrible a lie that,
For 150 years it convinced people that living things had evolved.

That does not make it terrible or even wrong. Living things have evolved since the special creation by divine fiat of the originally created 'kinds'. In fact, they continue to evolve.

It convinced people they were descended from ape-likes.

My feeling is that they misrepresented the evidence but...ok.


The theory was treated as a scientific one, even though it possessed not a shred of scientific evidence.

Which theory do you mean? If you are talking about the Theory of Evolution as the a priori assumption of universal common descent I agree, it's metaphysics not naturalistic methodology.

Efforts were made to give the impression that intermediate forms existed, though not a single one has ever been found.

Actually they are constantly coming up with new ones, they just don't stand up to close scrutiny.

Although not a single protein has ever been manufactured in the laboratory, the diversity of life was still ascribed to chance.

This will come as a big shock to Eli Lillies where they do it on a daily basis.

All of humanity was indoctrinated with the lie that unconscious, uncontrolled, inanimate atoms combined together in a random manner and gave rise to states, civilizations and scientists who examine their own cells in the laboratory.

I don't know, if you study political history these people seem pretty random to me. ;)

In doing all this, of course, it used only lies, fraud and demagoguery.

Now that would make a terrible lie, if you just tell nothing but lies no one is going to believe it. If, on the other hand, you arrange all the evidence around an a priori (without prior) assumption then you have a lie fit for a king.


Darwinism is such a terrible lie that the proponents of this ideology had no hesitation over producing hoax fossils and exhibiting these for 40 years.

You mean Piltdown, yea I have to agree with that one. Then when Piltdown is exposed Taung is celebrated as one of those mythical ancestors after being considered a chimpanzee for the same length of time.

Darwinists have made a habit of resorting to fraud in order to invent intermediate fossils. They have no reluctance over taking fossils of perfect living things and using them to invent a whole evolutionary scenario. They have countless scenarios about the imaginary first cell, but they are unable to account for the emergence of even one of that imaginary cell’s thousands of proteins. They say that mutations cause evolution, but they have been unable to endow a single living thing with any advantageous trait by way of mutation even in the controlled laboratory environment.

Yea, I'm with you on that one....well sort of. Not crazy about how you said it but in essence I tend to agree.

For that reason, they have sought a solution in fraud. Helpless in the face of the fossil record’s failure to support their theory, Darwinists have taken fossils belonging to flawless life forms and interpreted them according to their own desires, and have even resorted to blatant fraud.

Yes, early and often.

They manufactured the Piltdown Man hoax, exhibited for 40 years, by adding the jaw bone of a recently deceased orang utan to a human skull, and the Nebraska Man fraud by producing representations of him and his supposed family on the basis of a single boar’s tooth. They have engaged in propaganda to the effect that natural selection causes evolution, by adding feathers to dinosaur fossils or pinning peppered moths to the trunks of trees. For years, the portrayed the Coelacanth as an intermediate form, and were surprised when it transpired that the creature was still alive today. They came up with an imaginary “scenario of equine evolution,” although horse fossils dating back 53 million years were identical to horses alive today, but eventually had to confess that this, too, was a fraud.

I would just love it if you cited sources for some of that.

They tried to use hoax embryo drawings to explain the supposed evolution of man. But they then had to retract that false scenario when Haeckel, the author of the drawings, admitted that “many hoaxes had been perpetrated in the name of the theory of evolution, and that he therefore had no compunctions about doing so.”

You know a version of that picture is on the cover of a recent Nature edition? Myths don't die, they just evolve.

Darwinism is a lie. EVOLUTIONISTS FEEL THE NECESSITY TO CONCEAL FOSSILS because their hoaxes have constantly been exposed, and because all genuine fossils refute evolution.

Please don't equate Darwinism with evolution, that is a pet peeve of mine.

That was fun, BTW, are you a creationist?
 
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"Myths don't die, they just evolve."
That's funny.

"Please don't equate Darwinism with evolution, that is a pet peeve of mine. "
Why?

Because it's fallacious, it's called equivocation.

Equivocation (technical sense): a fallacy committed if we use words in different senses without distinction; or if we assume that what is true for one sense is true of the other senses.​

Scientifically evolution is defined as the change of alleles in populations over time, effectively making everyone an evolutionist. At the same time Evolution as natural history is based on naturalistic assumptions. The most important being the a priori (without prior) assumption of universal common descent by exclusively naturalistic causes:

He (Lamarck) first did the eminent service of arousing attention to the probability of all change in the organic, as well as in the inorganic world, being the result of law, and not of miraculous interposition. (On the Origin of Species, Darwin)​

Darwinism is just one long argument against special creation based on a rejection of what Darwin called 'miraculous interposition'. They are using two meanings of the word and it's fallacious. Natural Selection is another one, in science it is simply the death of the less fit but it is also a loaded term that carries with it the naturalistic assumptions that are at the heart of Darwinism.

Christians who really know what is going on know how to discern the difference. Here again are two different meanings attached to the same word 'science':

Loaded definition: “science is limited to explaining the natural world by means of natural processes” (National Science Teachers Association).

Proposed replacement: “The sciences are disciplines that study features of the world around us, looking for regularities as well as attempting to account for causal relations. In the causal chains we allow all relevant factors (including supernatural ones) to be considered.”​

PCA Historical Center, Creation Study Committee Report

See the difference?

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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