What are the different views on afterlife? I can honestly say i have just a bunch of jumbled thoughts on this area, i know what i think its not thats about it.
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Heathen Dawn
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As far as I recall:
1) Life in an immortal resurrected body on an earthly paradise. (Abrahamic religions)
2) Life in an immortal spiritual body in the spiritual realms. (Spiritualism; also my belief)
3) Reincarnation into any sort of living creature; a wheel of reincarnation that needs to be escaped. (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism)
4) Reincarnation into other human beings only, for added spiritual advancement through lifetimes. (Druze religion, standard Wiccan view)
5) Naturalistic reincarnation without a soul that goes on forever and cannot actually be escaped. (some variants of Buddhism)
6) Life as a shade in a gloomy underworld. (Old Testament view, Hellenic religion, Roman religion)
7) No afterlife. (materialism)
I’ve probably left some views out; let the others fill it in.
1) Life in an immortal resurrected body on an earthly paradise. (Abrahamic religions)
2) Life in an immortal spiritual body in the spiritual realms. (Spiritualism; also my belief)
3) Reincarnation into any sort of living creature; a wheel of reincarnation that needs to be escaped. (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism)
4) Reincarnation into other human beings only, for added spiritual advancement through lifetimes. (Druze religion, standard Wiccan view)
5) Naturalistic reincarnation without a soul that goes on forever and cannot actually be escaped. (some variants of Buddhism)
6) Life as a shade in a gloomy underworld. (Old Testament view, Hellenic religion, Roman religion)
7) No afterlife. (materialism)
I’ve probably left some views out; let the others fill it in.
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I hope that my individuality continujes to exist after death. I hope that, if it does, it will be a pleasant experience.
Beyond that, it doesn't impact my daily life enough to make it a major area of focus for me. I need to better understand the now.
Beyond that, it doesn't impact my daily life enough to make it a major area of focus for me. I need to better understand the now.
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Arthra
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If it were possible, visualize for a moment from the perspective of a foetus... with all the needs supplied in the womb for about nine months,
we would probably view the "next step" with a great degre of trepidation and anxiety...
How would our needs be met in the next world without the umbilicus?
What would the next world be like?
Consider the birth process itself where the lungs begin to function in this new world!
A whole new method of locomotion, breathing and getting sustenance would be thrust upon us!
So in a similar way do we confront the process of death and the after-life...
None of us will be able to escape the process of dying anymore than the foetus can escape the process of birth!
We have no more idea what the next world will be like than what the foetus could have of this world!
Another thought is that with all of the powers of intellect and character that we accumulate in this life is it then possible all of this developement is for nothing? I think not.
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we would probably view the "next step" with a great degre of trepidation and anxiety...
How would our needs be met in the next world without the umbilicus?
What would the next world be like?
Consider the birth process itself where the lungs begin to function in this new world!
A whole new method of locomotion, breathing and getting sustenance would be thrust upon us!
So in a similar way do we confront the process of death and the after-life...
None of us will be able to escape the process of dying anymore than the foetus can escape the process of birth!
We have no more idea what the next world will be like than what the foetus could have of this world!
Another thought is that with all of the powers of intellect and character that we accumulate in this life is it then possible all of this developement is for nothing? I think not.
- Art
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Arthra, I dig what you are saying, and am fascinated by the Bahai faith, but dude - your font is killing me.
It makes your posts much harder to read, and that bums me out because it seems you've got good stuff to say...
It makes your posts much harder to read, and that bums me out because it seems you've got good stuff to say...
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Heathen Dawn
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Arthra said:
This assume the universe has a purpose behind it. I agree, but Joe Atheist would disagree and say there’s no purpose for anything, including life itself, therefore no reason to expect an afterlife.
Hiero—I get by the font problem by copying and pasting his text into Notepad for viewing.
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Hmm, is it possible to believe in one or more Deities without necessarily believing that "the universe has a purpose"? For me, that's harder to accept than the exsitence of god(s).Heathen Dawn said:
Ah, but how much simpler if we all simply tried to make our posts easily legible...Heathen Dawn said:
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Quite easily, if you believe in god(s) that are a part of the universe (immanent) rather than being transcendent deities like the Christian God. I believe in many deities, which are basically local presences in this solar system (and different deities in the rest of the universe), each with its own identity and will. Therefore, they infuse the particular things and events in the world with purpose. But "the universe"--the grand overarching sum of all things--doesn't have any purpose of its own. (The monotheistic version of this would be "process theology," which is similar, but with one, more impersonal deity for the whole universe.)Hiero_Warship said:
It's kind of like the Internet; each Web site has a definite purpose, but the Internet itself doesn't, not in the same way.
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Heathen Dawn said:
Thanks for your reply Heathen Dawn... I've attempted to improve my fonts and so would apprecaite any feedback you or Hiero can give me...
I appreciate what you're saying regarding "Joe Atheist" ...actually i find most atheists good to talk with and having some truthful and original perspectives... We don't always agree of course but we usually end on a friendly note!
But give me feedback if you could on the font issue!
Thanks!
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I can't really say what to believe.
The means must justify the ends, but its impossible to know just what those means are. At any moment i could die, and i hate surprises.
Does anyone watch crossing over? What is everyone's take on this, fact or fiction?
The means must justify the ends, but its impossible to know just what those means are. At any moment i could die, and i hate surprises.
Does anyone watch crossing over? What is everyone's take on this, fact or fiction?
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Namaste all,
here's my repetition of the reincarnation/rebirth shuffle surely, someone must be tired of me posting the same information over and over
Buddhists don't believe in reincarnation, we believe in rebirth. rebirth and reincarnation are different though related. reincarnation connotes a mover that moves from incarnation to incarnation, a soul, if you will, that improves or learns over time.
Buddhism has nothing like that. rebirth, in the Buddhist tradition posits that it's an aspect of consciousness that is reborn and it's a very subtle level, the 8th Alaya consciousness that stores ones karmic seeds is what is actually reborn. of course, some schools don't even adhere to a concept of a rebirth as anything more than a psychological phenomenon though that is not the Classical interpetation.
here's my repetition of the reincarnation/rebirth shuffle
surely, someone must be tired of me posting the same information over and over Buddhists don't believe in reincarnation, we believe in rebirth. rebirth and reincarnation are different though related. reincarnation connotes a mover that moves from incarnation to incarnation, a soul, if you will, that improves or learns over time.
Buddhism has nothing like that. rebirth, in the Buddhist tradition posits that it's an aspect of consciousness that is reborn and it's a very subtle level, the 8th Alaya consciousness that stores ones karmic seeds is what is actually reborn. of course, some schools don't even adhere to a concept of a rebirth as anything more than a psychological phenomenon though that is not the Classical interpetation.
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Spaise,
My $.02 is that there are a lot of views on the afterlife for the same reason that there are a lot of different views on nearly every other aspect of religion. People just have different ideas about it.
IMHO, Crossing Over is a work of complete fiction. What he does on his show is about as magical as a magician cutting a woman in half.
My $.02 is that there are a lot of views on the afterlife for the same reason that there are a lot of different views on nearly every other aspect of religion. People just have different ideas about it.
IMHO, Crossing Over is a work of complete fiction. What he does on his show is about as magical as a magician cutting a woman in half.
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