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The Egyptian Book Of The Dead...trickle down theory

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The History Channel aired a show on The Egyptian Book Of The Dead. It discussed the possibility that the ten commandants and the Qur'an came from the book of the dead. Was this a case of trickle down theory and the Jews and Muslims adopted these for their own use?

Here are the THE 42 NEGATIVE CONFESSIONS from The Book of Going Forth By Day (The Egyptian Book Of The Dead) (The Papyrus of Ani) R. . Faulkner 125 Plate 31

Modern translations

I have not done wrong.
I have not robbed
I have not stolen.
I have not killed people.
I have not destroyed food offerings.
I have not reduced the measures (possibly meaning cheating the grain measures).
I have not stolen God's property.
I have not told lies.
I have not stolen food.
I was not sullen (resentful or unnecesarily unhappy).
I have not fornicated with the fornicator may mean homosexuality. Open to your interpretation.
I have not caused anyone to weep.
I have not pretended to be that which I am not.
I have not violated divine law (Ma'at) or possibly civil, or secular law.
I have not done grain profiteering.
I have not robbed land.
I have not told or discussed secrets.
I have not brought about a lawsuit.
I have not disputed property.
I have not had intercourse with a married person.
I have not wrongly copulated (could mean out of marriage)
I have not made people afraid.
I have not transgressed.
I have not been hot tempered.
have not told lies or withheld the truth.
I have not cursed.
I have not been violent.
I have not purposely misconstrued the truth.
I have not been impatient.
I have not discussed (as in inappropriate disscussions of any kind)
I have not been unnessecarily or annoyingly talkative.
I have not done evil.
I have not disputed the Pharaoh/King/Ruler/President/Queen/ruler in charge.
I have not waded in the purified water.
I have not been loud (yelled or raised my voice in anger).
I have not cursed a God.
I have not been boastful or glorified myself.
I have not hamed the bread ration to God.
I have not stolen the cakes from the Akhu.
I have not stolen cakes of a child
I have not fettered (constrained, or tried to shackle) the God of my town.
I have not slain cattle sacred to the Gods.


The Book of Going Forth By Day (The Egyptian Book Of The Dead) (The Papyrus of Ani) R. . Faulkner 125 Plate 31

Original translations


Oh Wide-strider who come forth from Heliopolis, I have not done wrong.
Fire-embracer who come forth from Kheraha, I have not robbed.
Nosey who came forth from Hermopolis, I have not stolen.
Swallower of Shades who came forth from Kernet, I have not slain people.
Terrible of Face who came forth from Rosetjau, I have not destroyed the food offerings.
Double Lion who came forth from the sky, I have not reduced measures.
He-whose-Eyes-are-in-Flames who comes forth from Asyut, I have not stolen the god's property.
Burning One who came forth backwards, I have not told lies.
Breaker of Bones who came forth from Memphis, I was not sullen.
He-of-the-Cavern who came forth from the West, I have not fornicated with the fornicator.
He-whose-Face-is-behind-him who came forth from his hole, I have not caused (anyone) to weep.
Anointed One who came forth from the chapel, I have not dissembled.
Hot-Legs who came forth at twilight, I have not transgressed.
He-who-is-Blood who came forth from the place of slaughter, I have not done grain-profiteering.
Eater of Entrails who came forth from the Council of Thirty, I have not robbed a parcel of land.
Lord of Truth who came forth from Hall of Two Truths, I have not discussed (secrets).
Strayer who came forth from Bubastis, I have brought no lawsuits.
Planter (?) who came forth from Heliopolis, I have not disputed at all about property.
Doubly Evil One who came forth from the Busirite Nome, I have not had intercourse with a married woman.
He-who-Sees-what-he-has-brought who cam forth from the House of Min, I have not (wrongly)
copulated.
He-who-is-over-the-Great-Ones who came forth from (?), I have not struck terror.
Demolisher who came forth from (?), I have not transgressed.
Proclaimer of Speech who came forth from Weryt, I have not been hot (tempered).
Youth who came forth from the Double Scepter Nome, I have not been neglectful of truthful words.
Dark One. who came forth from darkness, I have not cursed.
He-who-Brings-his-Offerings who comes forth from Asyut, I have not been violent.
Proclaimer of Voice who came forth from Wenis, I have not confounded (truth).
Possessor of Faces who came forth from Nedjefet, I have not been impatient.
Captain who came forth from Weten, I have not discussed.
Possessor of Two Horns who come forth from Asyut, I have not been garrulous about matters.
Nefertum who came forth from Memphis, I have not done wrong
I have not done evil.
He-who-does-not-(allow)-Surviviors who came forth from Busiris, I have not disputed the King.
He-who-Acts-as-he-Wishes who came forth from Antinaiopolis, I have not waded in water.
Thy who came forth from the Primordial Waters, My voice was not loud.
He-who-Prospers-the-Commom-People who came forth from Asyut, I have not cursed a god.
Uniter of Attributes who came forth from the Cavern, I have not made extollings (?).
Uniter of Good who came forth from the Cavern, I have not harmed the bread-ration of the gods.
Upraised of Head who came forth from the shrine, I have not stolen the Khenef-cakes from the Blessed.
He-who-Brings-his-Portion who came forth from the Hall of the Two Truths, I have not stolen Hefnu- cakes of a youth,
(nor) have I fettered the god of my town.
He-who-Brightens-the-Land who came forth from Faiyum (?), I have not slain sacred cattle.


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VVV said:
The History Channel aired a show on The Egyptian Book Of The Dead. It discussed the possibility that the ten commandants and the Qur'an came from the book of the dead. Was this a case of trickle down theory and the Jews and Muslims adopted these for their own use?

Here are the THE 42 NEGATIVE CONFESSIONS from The Book of Going Forth By Day (The Egyptian Book Of The Dead) (The Papyrus of Ani) R. . Faulkner 125 Plate 31

Modern translations

I have not done wrong.
I have not robbed
I have not stolen.
I have not killed people.
I have not destroyed food offerings.
I have not reduced the measures (possibly meaning cheating the grain measures).
I have not stolen God's property.
I have not told lies.
I have not stolen food.
I was not sullen (resentful or unnecesarily unhappy).
I have not fornicated with the fornicator may mean homosexuality. Open to your interpretation.
I have not caused anyone to weep.
I have not pretended to be that which I am not.
I have not violated divine law (Ma'at) or possibly civil, or secular law.
I have not done grain profiteering.
I have not robbed land.
I have not told or discussed secrets.
I have not brought about a lawsuit.
I have not disputed property.
I have not had intercourse with a married person.
I have not wrongly copulated (could mean out of marriage)
I have not made people afraid.
I have not transgressed.
I have not been hot tempered.
have not told lies or withheld the truth.
I have not cursed.
I have not been violent.
I have not purposely misconstrued the truth.
I have not been impatient.
I have not discussed (as in inappropriate disscussions of any kind)
I have not been unnessecarily or annoyingly talkative.
I have not done evil.
I have not disputed the Pharaoh/King/Ruler/President/Queen/ruler in charge.
I have not waded in the purified water.
I have not been loud (yelled or raised my voice in anger).
I have not cursed a God.
I have not been boastful or glorified myself.
I have not hamed the bread ration to God.
I have not stolen the cakes from the Akhu.
I have not stolen cakes of a child
I have not fettered (constrained, or tried to shackle) the God of my town.
I have not slain cattle sacred to the Gods.


The Book of Going Forth By Day (The Egyptian Book Of The Dead) (The Papyrus of Ani) R. . Faulkner 125 Plate 31

Original translations


Oh Wide-strider who come forth from Heliopolis, I have not done wrong.
Fire-embracer who come forth from Kheraha, I have not robbed.
Nosey who came forth from Hermopolis, I have not stolen.
Swallower of Shades who came forth from Kernet, I have not slain people.
Terrible of Face who came forth from Rosetjau, I have not destroyed the food offerings.
Double Lion who came forth from the sky, I have not reduced measures.
He-whose-Eyes-are-in-Flames who comes forth from Asyut, I have not stolen the god's property.
Burning One who came forth backwards, I have not told lies.
Breaker of Bones who came forth from Memphis, I was not sullen.
He-of-the-Cavern who came forth from the West, I have not fornicated with the fornicator.
He-whose-Face-is-behind-him who came forth from his hole, I have not caused (anyone) to weep.
Anointed One who came forth from the chapel, I have not dissembled.
Hot-Legs who came forth at twilight, I have not transgressed.
He-who-is-Blood who came forth from the place of slaughter, I have not done grain-profiteering.
Eater of Entrails who came forth from the Council of Thirty, I have not robbed a parcel of land.
Lord of Truth who came forth from Hall of Two Truths, I have not discussed (secrets).
Strayer who came forth from Bubastis, I have brought no lawsuits.
Planter (?) who came forth from Heliopolis, I have not disputed at all about property.
Doubly Evil One who came forth from the Busirite Nome, I have not had intercourse with a married woman.
He-who-Sees-what-he-has-brought who cam forth from the House of Min, I have not (wrongly)
copulated.
He-who-is-over-the-Great-Ones who came forth from (?), I have not struck terror.
Demolisher who came forth from (?), I have not transgressed.
Proclaimer of Speech who came forth from Weryt, I have not been hot (tempered).
Youth who came forth from the Double Scepter Nome, I have not been neglectful of truthful words.
Dark One. who came forth from darkness, I have not cursed.
He-who-Brings-his-Offerings who comes forth from Asyut, I have not been violent.
Proclaimer of Voice who came forth from Wenis, I have not confounded (truth).
Possessor of Faces who came forth from Nedjefet, I have not been impatient.
Captain who came forth from Weten, I have not discussed.
Possessor of Two Horns who come forth from Asyut, I have not been garrulous about matters.
Nefertum who came forth from Memphis, I have not done wrong
I have not done evil.
He-who-does-not-(allow)-Surviviors who came forth from Busiris, I have not disputed the King.
He-who-Acts-as-he-Wishes who came forth from Antinaiopolis, I have not waded in water.
Thy who came forth from the Primordial Waters, My voice was not loud.
He-who-Prospers-the-Commom-People who came forth from Asyut, I have not cursed a god.
Uniter of Attributes who came forth from the Cavern, I have not made extollings (?).
Uniter of Good who came forth from the Cavern, I have not harmed the bread-ration of the gods.
Upraised of Head who came forth from the shrine, I have not stolen the Khenef-cakes from the Blessed.
He-who-Brings-his-Portion who came forth from the Hall of the Two Truths, I have not stolen Hefnu- cakes of a youth,
(nor) have I fettered the god of my town.
He-who-Brightens-the-Land who came forth from Faiyum (?), I have not slain sacred cattle.


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I watched that and found it interesting that my view of Christianity being we are given the gift of life and then if we are loving the gift of eternal life but if unloving left to our own mortality and a destiny of oblivion is very similar to the world view of the ancient Egyptians.
 
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I always found the Egyptians to be very interesting and everything. Many religions do have the same morals as thoughts as Christianity though. I believe the Bible to be unique as God's word. The book of the dead might be similar but it isn't the Bible. ^_^

I looked up the Egyptian language though. It is really tight. ^_^
 
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Was this a case of trickle down theory and the Jews and Muslims adopted these for their own use?

It's possible. But its also highly possibe people came up with law codes independent of eachother. I mean really, the BoD list contains laws found in almost any society i.e. don;t steal, commit adultery, murder, etc. combined with laws specific to their religion as do the Mosaic law and hammarabi code to a lesser extent. Not exactly something requiring cultural borrowing to do. But the Hammarabi code, this and mosaic law just don;t sound all that similar to me, the religious/cultural laws are quite different.

I think its that "after this, therefore because of this" fallacy at work.
 
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