The Efficacy of the Cross

[Gettingtalents]

Hello family,

Did God pour out his own wrath on Christ on the cross? No. Did Christ take the punishment of sinners (as in, we weere destined for the cross and Christ took our place)? No.

Rather, I believe Christ's death pacified God's wrath. Listen to this story in Numbers 25 which speaks of how God's wrath was on the people of Israel for their sin, and how that wrath was turned away from them:

"And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who [were] weeping [before] the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw [it], he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy. Wherefore say, Behold, I give unto him my covenant of peace: And he shall have it, and his seed after him, [even] the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was zealous for his God, and made an atonement for the children of Israel." (Numbers 25:6-13)
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Phinehas did not "suffer" for Israel, but he rather did an act of righteousness tht pleased God. This was an atonement for the people that turned away God's wrath. Why couldn't this be the case in regards to Christ and the cross? Christ obeyed the Father even unto death (Philippians 2:8). It was this obedience that turned away God's wrath.

It should not seem strange that one man's obedience was accepted to turn away God's wrath since it was one man's disobedience that brought sin into the world.

"So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous" (Romans 5:18-19 NASB)
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The one act of righteusness was the cross. This is the obedient act that turnes God's wrath away from us for our "past" sins (Romans 3:25).

As was the case with the passover lamb in Egypt, where the children of Israel had to apply the bllod to their own doorposts, so we too must, through faith in his blood (Romans 3:25), apply the blood of Christ our Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) to our lives.

Your brother in our Lord,
Jason

 

[daq]

As was the case with the passover lamb in Egypt, where the children of Israel had to apply the bllod to their own doorposts, so we too must, through faith in his blood (Romans 3:25), apply the blood of Christ our Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) to our lives.

[SIZE=+1]I do believe Yeshua took our place in physical death; for if not then there should no flesh be saved, and thereby Yeshua also fulfills the Covenant with Noah and all flesh. Likewise half of the week he also fulfilled, (Jn.7) and abridged the allotted seven pa`am-times into 'the half' which remains for each in his appointed times, (though the seven pa`am-strokes decreed where not abridged). Therefore we have the extreme privilege of dying in spirit-soul, to self, and the benefit of supernal Torah according to the teachings, doctrine, and parables of Christ, rather than the old 'flesh commandments and ordinances' which were of the misinterpretations of the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes. However aside from those things, regarding your comments quoted above, how is it that we can apply the Blood of the Pesach Lamb to the two side posts and upper door posts of our houses? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Exodus 12:5-7 KJV[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]5. Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]6. And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]7. And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.[/SIZE]

 

[spelz]

I agree with both of you. This is the whole gospel. Christ was the supreme sin offering for all humanity. His perfect obedience qualified Him to die not only to save us from the eternal consequences of our sins, but also to free us from the power of sin and self, for we are partakers (not imitators), not only of His death and resurrection, but also His victory and the glory of His ascension.

We are also partakers of His suffering, the suffering of the Cross which each of us must choose to bear in our own mortal lives by our dying daily to self and crucifying the flesh, which however we cannot do on our own but only in the transforming power of the Holy Spirit which conforms us little by little into the image of Christ.

May God grant that His Spirit would lead us into a profound realization of our oneness with the crucified One, and a sincere conviction within us that we ourselves can do NOTHING to please Him or draw nearer to Him.

Christ alone is our life, our holiness, our fruit. He is the vine and we are the branches, but He is in us and we are in Him; therefore, He is the vine, the root, the branches, the leaves, the fruit, the air, the water, and the sunlight.

These are truths that I have only recently learned, and which I pray daily to realize, not to merely know them but to experience the spiritual reality of them in my heart and life, for knowledge without experience is meaningless and deceiving.

 

[daq]

These are truths that I have only recently learned, and which I pray daily to realize, not to merely know them but to experience the spiritual reality of them in my heart and life, for knowledge without experience is meaningless and deceiving.

[SIZE=+1]Perhaps you will begin to find the more fullness of the answers when you begin to see Torah in the Light and Life of the doctrines of Christ. The Father will not withhold the Truth from anyone sincere in heart; and the Son is he that searches the reins and hearts. For instance the beginning answer to my question above is contained in the greatest commandment of all: [/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Deuteronomy 6:4-9 KJV[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]4. Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]5. And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]6. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]7. And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]8. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]9. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Deuteronomy 11:18-21 KJV[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]18. Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]19. And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]20. And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]21. That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the Lord sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]The Ezekiel Temple has both inner and outer gates; and the man is 'the house' according to the doctrine of Christ: Therefore the Blood must in fact be Spirit, and surely now it is; even that same Spirit of Grace from which we all who believe are made to drink from, into the Covenant of a New Mediator who lives evermore to make intercession for us as High Priest by the order of Melchizedek. The Blood therefore atones not only the outside of the house but 'the inside of the cup' and the inner gates of the temple as well.[/SIZE]