The Easter that was not Easter

[Peace Keeper]

No actually, He was crucified during the daylight hours 9 AM to 3 PM of the 14th when the lambs were slain in the Temple. Passover would begin that evening after sundown. He was already buried in His Tomb when Passover began.

He was still crucified as our Passover Lamb, because He was crucified during the time they killed the Passover lamb.

7 "Get rid of the old hametz, so that you can be a new batch of dough, because in reality you are unleavened. For our Pesach [Passover] lamb, the Messiah, has been sacrificed." 1 Corinthians 5:7

The Last Supper, the way that Yeshua did it was something new, it had never been done before, but He told His disciples to remember Him during this time and what He was about to do for them. That is how I understand it.

 

[ewq1938]

No actually, He was crucified during the daylight hours 9 AM to 3 PM of the 14th when the lambs were slain in the Temple. Passover would begin that evening after sundown. He was already buried in His Tomb when Passover began.

Not quite. Christ ate the Passover dinner with his disciples at the beginning of the Passover. It was still Passover when he was crucified. He was in his tomb for the Sabbath not for Passover.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Not quite. Christ ate the Passover dinner with his disciples at the beginning of the Passover. It was still Passover when he was crucified. He was in his tomb for the Sabbath not for Passover.

No it wasn't. That is why they had to take them off the cross because Passover was at hand. He was crucified on the "day of preparation" (Friday) and Passover was on the Sabbath (Saturday) that year. John 19:31

 

[ewq1938]

No it wasn't. That is why they had to take them off the cross because Passover was at hand.

No, Passover was almost over. The Sabbath was approaching according to scripture.

He was crucified on the "day of preparation" (Friday) and Passover was on the Sabbath (Saturday) that year. John 19:31

He can't be the Passover lamb if he wasn't killed on Passover. Saturday that year was Sabbath not Passover.

Mat_26:2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

Scripture places the crucifixion on Passover.

Mat 26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?
Mat 26:18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.
Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.


How can Christ celebrate Passover with his disciples and then be in the tomb before Passover happens?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No, Passover was almost over. The Sabbath was approaching according to scripture.



He can't be the Passover lamb if he wasn't killed on Passover. Saturday that year was Sabbath not Passover.

Mat_26:2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

Scripture places the crucifixion on Passover.

Mat 26:17 Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?
Mat 26:18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.
Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.


How can Christ celebrate Passover with his disciples and then be in the tomb before Passover happens?

The lambs were not sacrificed on Passover...they are sacrificed on the 14th, Passover begins that evening on the 15th.

 

[ewq1938]

The lambs were not sacrificed on Passover...they are sacrificed on the 14th, Passover begins that evening on the 15th.

No it's begins the evening of the 14th:

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No it's begins the evening of the 14th:

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

You seriously do not know what you are talking about. YES, Passover starts on the evening of the 14th (which is actually the beginning of the 15th). You DO understand that after sunset on the 14th is the 15th, right? The lambs were sacrificed on the daylight hours of the 14th. In Exodus, the lambs were slaughtered on the daylight hours of the 14th and the angel passed over on the 15th (after sunset of the 14th). The lambs were sacrificed on the 14th and the blood put on the doors. The lamb was to be eaten after sunset (which is the 15th) until morning.

 

[ewq1938]

You seriously do not know what you are talking about. YES, Passover starts on the evening of the 14th (which is actually the beginning of the 15th). You DO understand that after sunset on the 14th is the 15th, right?

Excuse me but it was you who claimed Passover started on the evening of the 15th which is actually when it ends.

Passover begins that evening on the 15th.

That is wrong. It beings the evening of the 14th, just before the 15th begins.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Excuse me but it was you who claimed Passover started on the evening of the 15th which is actually when it ends.

That is wrong. It beings the evening of the 14th, just before the 15th begins.

That evening of the 14th (after sunset) IS the beginning of the 15th...Lambs were slain on the 14th, not on the 15th...

 

[ewq1938]

That evening of the 14th (after sunset) IS the beginning of the 15th...Lambs were slain on the 14th, not on the 15th...

Well Christ was slain on the 15th. The 16th was not Passover.

No actually, He was crucified during the daylight hours 9 AM to 3 PM of the 14th when the lambs were slain in the Temple. Passover would begin that evening after sundown. He was already buried in His Tomb when Passover began.

And this is your original post which remains wrong. Christ could not be in the tomb on Passover and have eaten the Passover the night of the 14th which was the start of the Passover.

 

[Peace Keeper]

4 ‘These are the feasts of the Lord, holy convocations which you shall proclaim at their appointed times.5 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread.7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it. 8 But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’” Leviticus 23:4-8

It would seem that the 15th day is actually the start of Unleavened Bread, and the first day of Unleavened bread they were not suppose to do any work, that is why Yeshua needed to be taken down and buried before that day. In Genesis, it tells us that evening is the beginning of the day and then morning, this makes a full day, so each evening it will start over, this is how I understand it anyway. It does get kinda confusing at times, but I do know that Yeshua was the Passover Lamb and became the First Fruits.

Though I do believe that Yeshua did eat the Passover meal at a different time than what the Jewish people kept, since He wasn't going to be there because He was the sacrifice. Not to say His meal was not part of the Passover, it still was, it was just different from what they had known and did, the evening of the Passover was the closest thing Yeshua could keep the Passover.

 

[ewq1938]

Though I do believe that Yeshua did eat the Passover meal at a different time than what the Jewish people kept, since He wasn't going to be there because He was the sacrifice. Not to say His meal was not part of the Passover, it still was, it was just different from what they had known and did, the evening of the Passover was the closest thing Yeshua could keep the Passover.

Jesus ate the Passover the same time and day everyone did. It was tradition on Passover that a prisoner be released. They did not choose Christ but that proves the night before when he ate the Passover it was the beginning of Passover, and early the next day he was arrested and saw Pilate and could have been freed because it was Passover.

 

[Peace Keeper]

Jesus ate the Passover the same time and day everyone did. It was tradition on Passover that a prisoner be released. They did not choose Christ but that proves the night before when he ate the Passover it was the beginning of Passover, and early the next day he was arrested and saw Pilate and could have been freed because it was Passover.

The Passover lamb had to be sacrificed first before the traditional Passover, at least that is how I understand it at the moment, I am still learning and growing in all areas. Since Yeshua was the Passover Lamb, He wasn't able to eat of the lamb that they would sacrifice that day and remember their deliverance from Egypt. Yeshua brought a new meaning to the Passover, He was delivering them from all sins and giving everyone a chance to come and know Him and receive eternal life, where death will have no more power.

 

[ewq1938]

The Passover lamb had to be sacrificed first before the traditional Passover, at least that is how I understand it at the moment, I am still learning and growing in all areas. Since Yeshua was the Passover Lamb, He wasn't able to eat of the lamb that they would sacrifice that day and remember their deliverance from Egypt.

He ate it at the right time, night of the 14th when it was almost the 15th. After that night was the beginning of the 7 days of the Passover celebration which is the unleavened bread. But the Passover and eating of it was late on the 14th.

 

[Peace Keeper]

He ate it at the right time, night of the 14th when it was almost the 15th. After that night was the beginning of the 7 days of the Passover celebration which is the unleavened bread. But the Passover and eating of it was late on the 14th.

The 15th was the first day of Unleavened bread, which they were not suppose to do any regular work so He couldn't have been crucified on the 15th day, they would be breaking what they believed and tried to follow.

I'm not trying to argue, just wanting to plant seeds for us to think on and search out.

 

[ewq1938]

The 15th was the first day of Unleavened bread, which they were not suppose to do any regular work so He couldn't have been crucified on the 15th day, they would be breaking what they believed and tried to follow. .

The Roman's didn't stop working on such days.

I'm not trying to argue, just wanting to plant seeds for us to think on and search out.

Of course. This is just a discussion of the scriptures. The Passover always was eaten late on the 14th. OT scriptures says nothing should be left by morning so it all had to be eaten. He was arrested that evening when it was officially the 15th....you know the rest of the story.

 

[Peace Keeper]

Yes, the Romans didn't stop working, but the Jews did want the body taken down for that reason I believe.

 

[ewq1938]

Yes, the Romans didn't stop working, but the Jews did want the body taken down for that reason I believe.

They wanted it taken down because the Sabbath was coming that evening.

Joh_19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

 

[Peace Keeper]

They wanted it taken down because the Sabbath was coming that evening.

Joh_19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

A Sabbath day doesn't always mean the 7th day/Saturday, God's Holy Days had Sabbaths also on top of the 7th day Sabbath. It was a high day like it says, because it was the first day of Unleavened Bread, the first and seventh day of Unleavened bread is to be holy convocations and no regular work should be done on them.

 

[ewq1938]

A Sabbath day doesn't always mean the 7th day/Saturday, God's Holy Days had Sabbaths also on top of the 7th day Sabbath.

Yes but it was a Saturday Sabbath because Christ rose on a Sunday, the first day of the week.

Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.