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I'm just going to start with this one. Did you do calculations to come to this conclusion or are you running on gut feelings?
I have never met a young earth creationist who had more than 4th grade math skills. I mean no offense it's just that people don't always know how little they know.
Since we've been to the moon and it's a big rock, and since God's word tells us the earth is about 6,000 years old, your post is nonsense.If the earth is 'young' then the moon is definitely made out of cheese!
No the numbers come from AIG. 20 billion tonnes a year of which 1 billion is accounted for by subduction.
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I have never met a young earth creationist who had more than 4th grade math skills. I mean no offense it's just that people don't always know how little they know.
Seriously?
Google "Kent Hovind"
Oh ya... you can debate him if you want... but be forewarned... he debates accredited, educated, doctors and men of great "earthly" knowledge, sometime two or three at a time, on this exact subject..... and he trashes them....
So..now you can say you know at least one YEC who not only has more than 4th grade math skills but also taught these skills as a teacher and dwarfs the "knowledge" of other learned men, on camera many many many times.
Since we've been to the moon and it's a big rock, and since God's word tells us the earth is about 6,000 years old, your post is nonsense.
I could say, "If you don't believe in all of God's word then you don't believe in any of it." Would that be true, just because I said so?
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Yet, he totally defeats PhD's and other educated men in formal debates and universities around the USA..
THIS Kent Hovind?
I feel sorry for the guy. He knows absolutely nothing about basic science.
He also has zero training in mathematics or advanced science. Unless you would like to prove me wrong and link one of his publications.
Its complete nonsense to believe that (A) The earth is 6,000 yrs old (B) That God's word tells us that!
I missed these civilizations.. can you tell me where the Bible talks of them?Especially considering that some of the civilizations mentioned in the Bible are OLDER than 6,000 years! xD
OKIm not implying anything. Ive been factual. If you want to debate evolution v creation do it with someone else not me. My comment is purely in relation to the end text referencing in the OP articles used. Theres no implication. The references listed in these articles are opinion pieces not research and the opinions are derived from creationist sites. That's my only position in this thread.
Not sure that Snelling rules out the possibility that rocks may never be bent after hardening. But as you say if a rock has hardened and then bends then fractures (even microscopic ones ) are likely. Snellings study was of rocks in the Grand Canyon and did not have these fractures.
There was speculation prior their landing on the moon. Here's something I found:Never happened. When they landed on the moon, they knew that the dust layer would be thin. That's why Snelling recommends not using this argument.
There are no calculations in that article whatsoever. The author also does not account for why the layers exist at all. If this all happened within a few thousand years then why not a single thick layer? All questions he refused to even consider because he is not curious and is not interested in truth. He doesn't even try to propose a working model.
I have no idea where you are going with the 20 billion tonnes a year and the 1 billion accounted for by subduction. In science you form a working model with the available data. You do not say "this could not possible be so my own belief is the only obvious conclusion". That is the pinnacle of laziness...
so where are you going with this?
Hardened rock layers are brittle. Try bending a slab of concrete sometime to see what happens!"
Here is an example of laziness. No...rock layers are composed of atoms that just so happen to be moving slower relative to each other than liquid or gaseous substances. Apply gradual force and they will be pushed slightly. Apply it gradually enough and the atoms in those concrete blocks will move apart very slightly. Do this for a really long time and you move those atoms apart with an even spread. Very simple physics.
Here is a basic mental experiment for you. What happens when you spread butter on toast? Now what happens when you throw a stick of butter against the wall at 300 mph? That isn't how rock formations are made but that is an easy way to visualize the underlying forces.
Rocks can bend over the course of long periods of time and constant pressure. Sudden movements of rocks may fracture them. An undergraduate geology student was taught these things.
This site has a photo of a stone slab in a cemetary that bent over the course of years.
Baltimore, MD - Sagging Tombstone
The OP arguments would not get a person a PHD in geology in any reputable university.
The Niger River delta contains fluvial and marine sediments that are miles thick. One would not expect to find thick sediment on newer formed portions of ocean floor near the Atlantic seafloor spreading zone that includes Iceland.
Carbon 14 is not used for dating old rocks. Scientists used potassium argon dating for rocks older than 100,000 years.
I would think God had a hand in creation, but am of the opinion the earth is very old.
My kids were all schooled in a private, Christ based school and they all know for certain that the earth is not more than 6000 years old.You can easily do a search on the Internet, for example on Wikipedia, and look for the 'oldest rocks on Earth'. You will find that the oldest rocks are dated to 2.5-3.8 billion years old. But there is one rock from Canada that has been dated to 4 billion years ago! Its really a fascinating discovery ... very near the original formation of the Earth.
You could discover these things easily ... just by searching with Google. But a better idea is to buy an introductory college textbook on geology, and read that. These days, the college books have excellent illustrations and writing ... the authors are doing a great job.
There is NO evidence that the Earth is 10,00 years old. And the arguments made to support this all use specious logic.
It is important for teachers of Christian home school groups to know this.
I think maybe you have that backwards.My kids were all schooled in a private, Christ based school and they all know for certain that the earth is not more than 6000 years old.
Thank goodness they were not brainwashed by "college textbooks" that teach false pseudo scientific assumptions.
Knowledge should build up not puff up. When it is accompanied by the levels of arrogance I have witnessed i cannot believe it to be knowledge at all.
I don't feel like you're really acknowledging the point I'm making. Inferences are informed by experiment.I am quite happy to accept the expertise of experimental scientists as setting limits to discussions. Inferential science is however just a word game and its so called experts are really just guessing.
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