The earth is flat. (Impossible to debunk)

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Bingo! Oh, sorry, I was playing Flerf Bingo.

Anyway, how does the moon appear "upside down" in the southern hemisphere on Flerf? Because folks in Auckland should be seeing the back of the moon when folks in London were viewing the front.
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Since you are already a believer. It wouldn't. It's just a global conspiracy of satanic Freemasons to make sure as few as possible people believe in Christ.

If I wanted to start a conspiracy to stop people from believing in Christ, I would start a movement attempting to get Christians to say ridiculous things, so no one would take them seriously. Like saying that the earth is flat.
 
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If I wanted to start a conspiracy to stop people from believing in Christ, I would start a movement attempting to get Christians to say ridiculous things, so no one would take them seriously. Like saying that the earth is flat.
So the devil makes them do it.
 
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Since you are already a believer. It wouldn't. It's just a global conspiracy of satanic Freemasons to make sure as few as possible people believe in Christ.
Well, they're doing a pretty bad job, then, considering that christianity is the biggest religion of the world.
 
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Looking at North America in relation to the rest of the hemisphere, you get a good sense of how silly the "stand atop Mt. Everest" argument really is.

Everest in relation to the size of the Earth would stick out less than a pimple does on your face.
 
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One problem that seems to confuse people is the "projection" of spherical surface onto a flat surface in the form of a map. This cannot be done without introducing a distortion. This can be likened to very carefully peeling an orange all in one piece and then trying to flatten the whole thing out. This cannot be done without a good deal of stretching (which doesn't work well with orange peels) or by cutting the peel strategically to reduce the stretching. The article below details a number of projections that have been attempted over the centuries:

List of map projections - Wikipedia

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Good post and explanation.
My sloppy approximation of peeling and slicing to get a better 2d interpretation of a sphere. It's more accurate, but far less easy to navigate.
peeled globe.JPG
 
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I don't think you're crazy, and am sympathetic to, if not convinced of, the idea of a flat earth. Thank you for posting this. It's still relevant, and worth at least hearing out. God bless you, and thank you for taking an unpopular stance and presenting ideas on it.
 
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This was posted here a while back:

1. Please explain how a flight from Sydney to Santiago (7000 miles) in 12:45 min can happen on the FE model. On the FE map, Sydney to Santiago is a 20,500 mile trip. First there is not one commercial plane that can fly nonstop 20,500. Second, to do the trip in 12 hours 45 minutes the plane would be traveling over 1,600 mph.

2. Please explain how a person in Santiago at 11 pm and a person in Cape Town at 4am (Same exact time just 2 different time zones) can both look due south and see the same pole star (Sigma Octantis), On the FE map South for Santiago is about 90 degrees different than South for Cape Town. You cannot see the same star at the same time looking due south as due south is at right angles for these countries on an FE model.

3. Why is the earth shadow on a lunar eclipse a curve? How does the earth even cast a shadow on the moon if the moon is above us on the dome?

4. Why does the sun and moon not follow the laws of parallax? Both rise and set and travel through the sky without changing size. According to parallax, as they move away from us they should be shrinking. This is not observed. They rise and set, they do not expand and shrink as parallax would predict.

5. Why when you climb a tower, the higher you go the further you can see? FE says that we can only see as far as the vanishing point. How does the vanishing point change based on how high you are?

6. Why do all the surveyors using Geodesy say the earth is curved? Are they in also in conspiracy with NASA and the Government as well?

7. Why is the moon inverted in the southern hemisphere vs. the northern hemisphere?​
 
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Hello everyone

I will show you what I have found within the last couple of months.
This will once and for all prove to you that the earth is flat.

1. Flight paths

Abu Dhabi to Texas flight path

This graphic shows the path of a flight from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates to Fort Worth, Texas, USA. The top graphic shows how the flight appears as it is tracked on a globe map. The bottom graphic shows how the flight path would look on a flat earth map. As you can see, the flight path on the ball earth map appears to take a strange northern loop and pass unnecessarily over land in the high northern latitudes. Why not just go in a straight line? On the flat earth map, however, the flight path going over land in the northern latitudes makes perfect sense, as it is a straight line from point A to point B.

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If Earth was a ball, and Antarctica was too cold to fly over, the only logical way to fly from Sydney to Santiago would be a straight shot over the Pacific staying in the Southern hemisphere the entire way. Re-fueling could be done in New Zealand or other Southern hemisphere destinations along the way if absolutely necessary. In actual fact, however, Santiago-Sydney flights go into the Northern hemisphere making stop-overs at LAX and other North American airports before continuing back down to the Southern hemisphere. Such ridiculously wayward detours make no sense on the globe but make perfect sense and form nearly straight lines when shown on a flat Earth map.”.


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“On a ball-Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight shot over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.”—Ibid

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“On a ball-Earth Johannesburg, South Africa to Sao Paolo, Brazil should be a quick straight shot along the 25th Southern latitude, but instead nearly every flight makes a re- fueling stop at the 50th degree North latitude in London first! The only reason such a ridiculous stop-over works in reality is because the Earth is flat.” ~ Ibid

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According to the Federal Aviation Association, no air flights have gone the much shorter routes over the Arctic and Antarctic due to cold weather effecting flights as well as having to effect rescue over such inhabited areas (what about the oceans?!). Another reason that is given is that airlines would be required to carry special survival equipment (jackets, boots?), even though thousands of hours of flight time and fuel consumption would be saved by going direct instead of Westward and Eastward directions.

“If Earth was a ball there are several flights in the Southern hemisphere which would have their quickest, straightest path over the Antarctic continent such as Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia. Instead of taking the shortest, quickest route in a straight line over Antarctica, all such flights detour all manner of directions away from Antarctica instead claiming the temperatures too cold for airplane travel! Considering the fact that there are plenty of flights to/from/over Antarctica, and NASA claims to have technology keeping them in conditions far colder (and far hotter) than any experienced on Earth, such an excuse is clearly just an excuse, and these flights aren’t made because they are impossible.”


2. Emergency landings

This video on YouTube lets you see 6 flights that had to make an emergency landing which would not be possible on a globe model.


3. Commercial airplane crashes

Again a video. This time of commercial airplane crashes.



4. The moon landing hoax

There is mountains of evidence that we never went to the moon. And that it has been filmed in Hollywood. I will not go any further into this one, but if you still believe in fairytales then you could start with this documentary.


5. The ISS hoax

Just like the moon landings. The "ISS" is filmed in Hollywood. It is a Freemason conspiracy.


6. There is no "space"

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

A piece of the firmament has been found.

The Sky Stone | My great WordPress blog





Can't tell if satire or serious.
 
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The "planets" are 7 angels that disobeyed God, the 7 wandering stars. As described in Enoch. Calling God a liar?

Here's a quick summary


Satan tells Jesus that he's willing to give Jesus the entire riches of the earth if Jesus just bows before him. Thus the devil controls the earth.

And satan despises man. So he wants to see as many humans go to hell.

The greatest trick the devil has ever pulled, is convincing the world he doesn't exist.

Even Ted Gunderson, former FBI boss told television that there is a satanic shadow government.


You have been lied to your entire life. A lie told once is a lie. But a lie told a thousand times becomes truth.

I just died a little inside
 
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The "planets" are 7 angels that disobeyed God, the 7 wandering stars. As described in Enoch. Calling God a liar?

Here's a quick summary


Satan tells Jesus that he's willing to give Jesus the entire riches of the earth if Jesus just bows before him. Thus the devil controls the earth.

And satan despises man. So he wants to see as many humans go to hell.

The greatest trick the devil has ever pulled, is convincing the world he doesn't exist.

Even Ted Gunderson, former FBI boss told television that there is a satanic shadow government.


You have been lied to your entire life. A lie told once is a lie. But a lie told a thousand times becomes truth.
Ahh... but what would you know about truth, little one?
 
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