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The Dreaded Dinosaurs Debate

Willtor

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I was just wondering what your opinions were on dinosaurs.. since it seems to be the "perfect retort" for every Atheist or Agnostic out there.

I think they're neat. My favorite is the brontosaurus.

I don't quite understand your question, though: could you explain what you mean by using dinosaurs as a retort?
 
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I think he means to understand why it is dinosaurs came before mankind since there is no mention of them in the Bible. Many atheists and agnostic use the fact that dinosaurs and other creatures roamed the earth millions of years before we did as their rebuttal.
 
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I was just wondering what your opinions were on dinosaurs.. since it seems to be the "perfect retort" for every Atheist or Agnostic out there.
I don't think it has much to do with one's atheism or agnosticism, it's just the facts on what we know about dinos. The Bible doesn't mention anything about them, but from evidence of the fossil record we can conclude they could not have co - existed with man, so that means they must have been roaming around prior to the Fall if anything.
 
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Hi all,

I'm assured the dinosaurs lived with man. Most of them were not carnivores and therefore wouldn't have been any threat to man. It also isn't like the earth was absolutely covered over with the meat eating ones. If we base our logic on just the fact that the dinosaurs would have been dangerous to man, then we have to wonder why the rattlesnake and shark and alligator are able to live with man today. Lions roam wild and yet people live within a few miles of their territory. Rattlesnakes and other highly poisonous snakes are all over the world and yet, for the most part, we all get along with them around. Similarly, the earth is large enough that there could have been thousands of carnivorous dinos and yet we would have been able to live among them. It is thought that, much like the blue whale, the population of the larger and some more dangerous dinos were relatively few in number. Just take a guess how many poisonous snakes, alligators, lions, sharks, even black widow spiders and other animals deadly to man roam about the earth today. How is it that we are able to live among them without all of us getting killed?

As far as the age of the dinosaurs, well, we do actually have bones from dinosaurs and bone matter is organic and given enough time will break up. There is supporting evidence that within a hundred years a human body would decompose to nothing but dust, if left to the elements. How is it that we have actual dinosaur bones that are supposedly millions or billions of years old? Now, I don't mean to confuse this with petrified material, but just a dinosaur that laid down and died in the woods laying on top of the soil to decompose under the elements.

Well, guess what? The catastrophic flood of some 5,000 years ago would give us some explanation as to how they have remained this long. Instead of the creatures dying on top of the soil and decomposing in a normal fashion, many may have been buried under tons of sediment. HMMMMMM.

God bless.
In Christ, Ted.
 
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As far as the age of the dinosaurs, well, we do actually have bones from dinosaurs and bone matter is organic and given enough time will break up. There is supporting evidence that within a hundred years a human body would decompose to nothing but dust, if left to the elements. How is it that we have actual dinosaur bones that are supposedly millions or billions of years old? Now, I don't mean to confuse this with petrified material, but just a dinosaur that laid down and died in the woods laying on top of the soil to decompose under the elements.

There are many ways for fossilization to happen. I'm sure Wikipedia has a nice overview on the different ways it happens.

Well, guess what? The catastrophic flood of some 5,000 years ago would give us some explanation as to how they have remained this long. Instead of the creatures dying on top of the soil and decomposing in a normal fashion, many may have been buried under tons of sediment. HMMMMMM.

No. If there was a global flood, every dinosaur would be in the same layer in the rock strata. This is not the case. There are very clear lines of distinction. This isn't even considering the numerous other bits of evidence against a global flood. A global flood did not happen, and it couldn't have happened.
 
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I am just really glad that the T-rex is not roaming around the earth today. I think that guy could eat me in one byte.

My brother and I went to the Boston Museum of Science last month and we estimated that we were each probably about two bites.

Didn't the brontosaurus get scrapped?

The term "brontosaurus" got scrapped, yes. The skeleton that was called brontosaurus was so close to apatosaurus that it was concluded the former was actually the latter. Since the term "apatosaurus" was older, the term "brontosaurus" was rejected.

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Hi all,

I'm assured the dinosaurs lived with man. Most of them were not carnivores and therefore wouldn't have been any threat to man. It also isn't like the earth was absolutely covered over with the meat eating ones. If we base our logic on just the fact that the dinosaurs would have been dangerous to man, then we have to wonder why the rattlesnake and shark and alligator are able to live with man today. Lions roam wild and yet people live within a few miles of their territory. Rattlesnakes and other highly poisonous snakes are all over the world and yet, for the most part, we all get along with them around. Similarly, the earth is large enough that there could have been thousands of carnivorous dinos and yet we would have been able to live among them. It is thought that, much like the blue whale, the population of the larger and some more dangerous dinos were relatively few in number. Just take a guess how many poisonous snakes, alligators, lions, sharks, even black widow spiders and other animals deadly to man roam about the earth today. How is it that we are able to live among them without all of us getting killed?

As far as the age of the dinosaurs, well, we do actually have bones from dinosaurs and bone matter is organic and given enough time will break up. There is supporting evidence that within a hundred years a human body would decompose to nothing but dust, if left to the elements. How is it that we have actual dinosaur bones that are supposedly millions or billions of years old? Now, I don't mean to confuse this with petrified material, but just a dinosaur that laid down and died in the woods laying on top of the soil to decompose under the elements.

Well, guess what? The catastrophic flood of some 5,000 years ago would give us some explanation as to how they have remained this long. Instead of the creatures dying on top of the soil and decomposing in a normal fashion, many may have been buried under tons of sediment. HMMMMMM.

God bless.
In Christ, Ted.

Could it be because a global flood never actually happened? :idea:
 
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What if I told you that the Bible mentions a global disaster that took place prior to Noah's flood and even Adam's existence?! Well, it does! This first global disaster could be possibly when not only the dinosaurs became extinct but when Pangea divided. This discovery is part of a code, watch the video at the bottom of this webpage:
whatyoudontunderstandcanhurtyou.com/smplchptrs.htm
 
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Hi all,

I'm assured the dinosaurs lived with man. Most of them were not carnivores and therefore wouldn't have been any threat to man. It also isn't like the earth was absolutely covered over with the meat eating ones. If we base our logic on just the fact that the dinosaurs would have been dangerous to man, then we have to wonder why the rattlesnake and shark and alligator are able to live with man today. Lions roam wild and yet people live within a few miles of their territory. Rattlesnakes and other highly poisonous snakes are all over the world and yet, for the most part, we all get along with them around. Similarly, the earth is large enough that there could have been thousands of carnivorous dinos and yet we would have been able to live among them. It is thought that, much like the blue whale, the population of the larger and some more dangerous dinos were relatively few in number. Just take a guess how many poisonous snakes, alligators, lions, sharks, even black widow spiders and other animals deadly to man roam about the earth today. How is it that we are able to live among them without all of us getting killed?

As far as the age of the dinosaurs, well, we do actually have bones from dinosaurs and bone matter is organic and given enough time will break up. There is supporting evidence that within a hundred years a human body would decompose to nothing but dust, if left to the elements. How is it that we have actual dinosaur bones that are supposedly millions or billions of years old? Now, I don't mean to confuse this with petrified material, but just a dinosaur that laid down and died in the woods laying on top of the soil to decompose under the elements.

Well, guess what? The catastrophic flood of some 5,000 years ago would give us some explanation as to how they have remained this long. Instead of the creatures dying on top of the soil and decomposing in a normal fashion, many may have been buried under tons of sediment. HMMMMMM.

God bless.
In Christ, Ted.

Aaaahahahahahahahaha.....wheeze...a...haha...hahahahaha!!

Sir, really? Really?? We know how long ago dinosaurs roamed the earth, it's only slightly debatable, and not by very long. 5,000 years ago dinosaurs were not walking around anywhere. I can ga ron tee you that.
 
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What if I told you that the Bible mentions a global disaster that took place prior to Noah's flood and even Adam's existence?! Well, it does! This first global disaster could be possibly when not only the dinosaurs became extinct but when Pangea divided. This discovery is part of a code, watch the video at the bottom of this webpage:
whatyoudontunderstandcanhurtyou.com/smplchptrs.htm

Now you see, the problem with these kinds of "codes" is that you can find them in nearly any book of reasonable size. They found one in Moby Dick, so I'm sure there are some real zingers in War and Peace, but that does not make them anything more than coincidental.
 
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It is funny that people get so hung up about the bible not mentioning dinosaurs but big deal. The bible also does not mention black holes, calculus, nor warn us that people would have terrible fashion sense in the 70's! However, I don't expect the bible to have to discuss everything that has existed or will exist in the future. The bible would be a much thicker book if that were true.
 
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Now you see, the problem with these kinds of "codes" is that you can find them in nearly any book of reasonable size. They found one in Moby Dick, so I'm sure there are some real zingers in War and Peace, but that does not make them anything more than coincidental.

Prove it. Read the book for yourself and then decide.
 
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