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If all you get out of it is that part, then of course it's not going to look pleasant. Maybe you could look at some part of a war we participated in with Iraq when we attacked them, blowing up entire convoys on the roads, leaving the roadside littered with blown-apart and burned bodies. But you have to look at the big picture.
BlueLighteningTN.....how did we get to this topic? I was just pointing out before about how the church used to be and the types of settings where people can actually question and learn things--even today.
What has the war in Iraq, have to do with what is written in holy book over 2000 years ago?
bhstme said:Now, that was a pleasant story.
Aldebaran said:If all you get out of it is that part, then of course it's not going to look pleasant. Maybe you could look at some part of a war we participated in with Iraq when we attacked them, blowing up entire convoys on the roads, leaving the roadside littered with blown-apart and burned bodies. But you have to look at the big picture.
BlueLighteningTN.....how did we get to this topic? I was just pointing out before about how the church used to be and the types of settings where people can actually question and learn things--even today.
"The God-knowing individual is not one who is blind to the difficulties or unmindful of the obstacles which stand in the way of finding God in the maze of superstition, tradition, and materialistic tendencies of modern times. He has encountered all these deterrents and triumphed over them, surmounted them by living faith, and attained the highlands of spiritual experience in spite of them. But it is true that many who are inwardly sure about God fear to assert such feelings of certainty because of the multiplicity and cleverness of those who assemble objections and magnify difficulties about believing in God. It requires no great depth of intellect to pick flaws, ask questions, or raise objections. But it does require brilliance of mind to answer these questions and solve these difficulties; faith certainty is the greatest technique for dealing with all such superficial contentions." UB 1955
"The God-knowing individual is not one who is blind to the difficulties or unmindful of the obstacles which stand in the way of finding God in the maze of superstition, tradition, and materialistic tendencies of modern times. He has encountered all these deterrents and triumphed over them, surmounted them by living faith, and attained the highlands of spiritual experience in spite of them. But it is true that many who are inwardly sure about God fear to assert such feelings of certainty because of the multiplicity and cleverness of those who assemble objections and magnify difficulties about believing in God. It requires no great depth of intellect to pick flaws, ask questions, or raise objections. But it does require brilliance of mind to answer these questions and solve these difficulties; faith certainty is the greatest technique for dealing with all such superficial contentions." UB 1955
Really? Because it seems to me to ask good questions and point out issues one has takes a certain amount of intellect.
Still he is sort of right. It does not take much intellect to point out flaws in the way many American Christians interpret Scripture and it requires someone skilled almost beyond the ken of mortal man in doublespeak to make any sense out of those same interpretations.
I would take the character of the least of Gods children over those whose motive is to destroy their faith.
Pointing out logical flaws, inconsistences in stories, factual errors, and just plain wrongness of a story is not intellectually vapid.
Putting fancy sounding words into a coherent sentence and expecting others to jump up and down from sheer amazement is intellectually vapid.
I agree, it's not "intellectually" vapid, it's immoral, not motivated by goodness but by evil.
I would take the character of the least of Gods children over those whose motive is to destroy their faith.
You might want to reconsider, seeing as that would mean you favor the Westburo Baptist Church over an angry Internet antitheist
When I said "the least of Gods children" I envisioned an impoverished humble person serving their God in faith gladly. The Westburo people have no truth in them.
Well no duh then, even I would prefer the presence of a humble believer with good intentions over any antitheist, however, their likability has nothing to do with their validity as far as the arguments they use.
The morality of any act is determined by a persons motives.
The morality of any act is determined by a persons motives.
It is? So if I kill someone but I had good intentions for doing so it is a moral act?
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