sonoflilith said:
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Yes I understand but, but while mwe are here I guess I cna ask anothwr question. WHY does Sin exist? I understand disobeying against GOD, but why is it a tangible thing that orevents us from recieving him. What is SO powerful God himself could not remove it and why did he have to Sacrifice HIMSELF to HIMSELF to save us from a rule he made HIMSELF.
Well, when you said tangible in an earlier post, I was thinking about something. A person can exist that does no wrong on the outside at all. However, our hearts are dark, even though as Christians we recieve a new heart and are righteous in Christ, meaning to God we are pure, we still have darkness within because we are in this body. So let's say a Christian did no wrong at all on the outside, his inside alone would condemn him, because of the things we hold on to, the places we don't let Jesus near to heal and purify us of. We sin all our lives.. So that's about tangible sin, just thinking about that much earlier from another post.
It isn't the tanglible things that prevent us from recieving Christ at all. We come to Christ as we are, and as we grow in Christ, we turn things over to Him, and the Holy Spirit who indwells a a believer helps in this battle as does the Father and Son. There is no sin that you or I could possibly do in our lives that prevents us from recieving Christ in our lives. I may have misunderstood what you meant, but this is what I thought you were discussing. Let me know if I was way off.
sonoflilith said:
What is SO powerful God himself could not remove it and why did he have to Sacrifice HIMSELF to HIMSELF to save us from a rule he made HIMSELF
I really think the key is free will. When He created all things, I believe He bound hiimself by certain things. He doesn't go against our will. He created satan, a high angel, and the angel fell, and brought evil to the world, and then, man indulged, and through that we all were condemned. Yet had no Adam and Eve done it, most likely another would have because God gave them free will. Perhaps again this is why the tree was there, God not withholding anything to be known to man that could be known, but I don't know for sure on that.
I'm fairly sure since you've read the bible some that from the OT a sacrifice had to be made for sin, an unblemished animal in the OT. It didn't actually atone for sin, but it covered it nonetheless. So, come Jesus, who was in heaven with all glory with the Father recieving praise and adoration from angels, and those who were there at the time.
It took a man to die for man. This was God's plan. Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's a faith issue again.
It's because He set things in motion from the beginning of time. He made creation gave it free will. However, when man sinned, He immediately banished them from the garden, and protected man from the tree of life, by puttning angels to guard it, for if man after he sinned ate of the tree of life, we would forever be in our sin.
Why God needed Jesus to die for our sins, was because that was what the price was for sin. A perfect sinless sacrifice; the sacrificial lamb. I don't know why; what I mean by that, is I'm not studied in the OT real well; it's rather detailed in the OT, as to requiring sacrifices for sin. As you study the OT you see why God required sacrifices and then comes the NT and Jesus comes, born of a virgin, sinless, and offers His life as a sacrifice for us. A man for a man.
Also, by that sacrifice all sins are atoned for, yours, mine, present and future and past, however we must believe in Jesus, and that He was resurrected. The Holy Spirit calls us to believe, and sometimes we hear His voice, and sometimes we don't. Christians are the ones who have heard and believed.
I have a friend, grew up in church, heard the gospel all her life, but didn't actually 'hear' and 'believe' for some reason till she was in her mid 30s. Can't explain it. Just how it is.
He will call you all your life, yet the problem is we don't know how long we have. He loves you very much.
I guess God could change anything. He could make gravity work in reverse, but it seems to me that he does not violate what He set in motion from the beginning of time.
God bless,
and thank you for your kindness in writing here.