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The Devil and the Bible
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tigersnare said:
Sorry, the truth hurts, but this is the OBOB forum where I can speak the truth...
I am sorry if it hurts though, honestly!!
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kimber1 said:
WOW! Thanks for the quote Kimber!
This is just what I was wondering the other day! If it was a good vocation to try and work for unity!
"Christ bestowed unity on his Church from the beginning. This unity, we believe, subsists in the Catholic Church as something she can never lose, and we hope that it will continue to increase until the end of time." Christ always gives his Church the gift of unity, but the Church must always pray and work to maintain, reinforce, and perfect the unity that Christ wills for her. This is why Jesus himself prayed at the hour of his Passion, and does not cease praying to his Father, for the unity of his disciples: "That they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be one in us, . . . so that the world may know that you have sent me." The desire to recover the unity of all Christians is a gift of Christ and a call of the Holy Spirit."
Maybe the HS is calling me to do this!
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No see it's not your idea of truth or my idea of truth. It's about having a little respect for your brothers and sisters in Christ.Defens0rFidei said:
But then again, that's up to you, do as you please.
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tigersnare said:
I do respect you, which is why I won't lie to you for the sake of false unity.
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I agree with you Tigersnare. I do think that sometimes though the OBOBers go a little bonkers (myself included) because we get such NASTINESS from the Protestants (I mean, they tell us to GET LOST if we ask simple questions on PRE. And they're NOT very nice about it).tigersnare said:
Be forgiving and patient, please, and in turn you will be blessed.
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I would think 90% of this stems from misunderstanding or, "A failure to communicate". It wasn't until I was enlightened some gracious and kind posters here that I understood better the Catholic "mindset"(for lack of a better word). Now I'm hoping to see other Christians, not "Catholics".Bastoune said:
I feel like when persucution arises, it's we're either with Jesus or against him, the hangman isn't going to care which Denomination we are.
AgreedBastoune said:
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here's another defensofidei:
"the Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among the shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as ' a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at lenght have life.' "
"the Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among the shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as ' a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at lenght have life.' "
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Defens0rFidei said:Didn't you know the True Christians TM were hiding underground for those 1500 years?
Not all of them. If you read books like Carroll's The Trail of Blood, you'll find that they couldn't have been, because the evil ole Catholic Church systematically murdered 1,476,942,908,367,422,000,¼ "Bible Christians" during the Middle Ages---and that was just during the first six weeks of 1353.
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Wolseley said:Not all of them. If you read books like Carroll's The Trail of Blood, you'll find that they couldn't have been, because the evil ole Catholic Church systematically murdered 1,476,942,908,367,422,000,¼ "Bible Christians" during the Middle Ages---and that was just during the first six weeks of 1353.
Ohhhhhhhh.
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Of course the bible can be abused to the devil's purposes:
As the Early Fathers witness, none were louder in quoting from the scriptures than the Marcionites, the Arian Heretics, Docetists and others.
Since then, virtually everyone who has founded a perversion of Christianity to mislead humanity has taken hold of some scripture to "build" it upon. The Bogomils, Cathars, Unitarians, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientists, Koresh followers, all take portions of scripture and use them to build a structure of untruth.
it is a common pattern. One of the favourite deceptions.
As the Early Fathers witness, none were louder in quoting from the scriptures than the Marcionites, the Arian Heretics, Docetists and others.
Since then, virtually everyone who has founded a perversion of Christianity to mislead humanity has taken hold of some scripture to "build" it upon. The Bogomils, Cathars, Unitarians, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Scientists, Koresh followers, all take portions of scripture and use them to build a structure of untruth.
it is a common pattern. One of the favourite deceptions.
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I'm not saying Protestants are ignorant and unstable as a generalization. My comments were in regards to Martin Luther's suspected OCD sufferings and how they led him to come up with "faith alone."
Please dont be offended.
I'm not saying Protestants are ignorant and unstable as a generalization. My comments were in regards to Martin Luther's suspected OCD sufferings and how they led him to come up with "faith alone."
Please dont be offended.
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Good Day, DOF
I think that the whole post was a generalization as to the understanding of Scripture. The comments of Luther are some thing we have talked about in the past and do not see these comments as proven or of a benifit to the discussion. Just my thoughts!
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I think that the whole post was a generalization as to the understanding of Scripture. The comments of Luther are some thing we have talked about in the past and do not see these comments as proven or of a benifit to the discussion. Just my thoughts!
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