Hey Watchman this is your comment "You deny Satan, but he is the fallen angel: Lucifer, and ever present,"Well, you can prove anything by taking Scripture out of context and extrapolating to make a story, Hitman, but what I said is very consistent with "all the counsel of God" as the Apostle counseled us ---and also the papers I posted, I see.
One needs to study the whole Bible and be "rightly dividing the Word of Truth" as shown. No verse of the Bible can contradict another verse, so when it seems that way to one, he should know he has misinterpreted it.
You deny Satan, but he is the fallen angel: Lucifer, and ever present, and loves to have one deny him so he can work without being seen; and he is by God the representative of everything outside of God ---darkness, chaos, self-centeredness, self-indulgence, challenges to God and all goodness, etc. Study your Bible friend, and be careful to not be taking verses here and there to prove a hypothesis you might have.
I think I will leave you to your own ideas and rely on what I know are sound sources and approved by God. You really should not be a "hitman" against Truth. Look up and pray much for leading and teaching by God.
This is my reply
Ecclesasticus 3-24 "For many are deceived by their own vain opinion; and an evil suspicion hath overthrown their judgment."
"Without eyes thou shalt want light: profess not the knowledge therefore that thou hast not."
Fallen Angels man please Read this about your fallen Angels
Hey Watchmen Read and answer this scripture with logic not a Theory or Greek Mythology
1 Kings) Chapter 22
And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persude him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Did you read that?
Question how could these so called Evil Angles Fall if all they are in the presence of God in this vision by micah
2. If they were Kicked out of Heaven why did they come Back?
3. Why if they Hate God why in the Hell are they listening to Him and having conversations with him?
" I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. "
the most high AGREED with this JUDGEMENT watchman
what you need to do is STOP applying Greco Roman mthology with the Scriptures
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