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The Democrat's big lie

DaisyDay

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The majority of voters are NOT Democrats.
I think there are more people registered as Democrats than as Republicans, but whether they turn out to vote is unknown. Right now, however, it seems increasingly likely especially among the younger contingent. The ongoing Gaza genocide was very problematic for young people and minority voters in voting for Biden - I don't know yet how this will shake out for Harris.
 
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....of the people who voted. Not everyone registered voted. Some simply turned their backs on both parties. Happens all the time......
Yeah that’s what “of the vote” means.
 
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Yes, there are MORE Democrats, but nowhere near a majority of potential voters, or of actual voters.

I think that the enthusiasm difference between Biden and Harris is huge. Trump no longer has a large advantage in enthusiasm.

Democrats still aren't favored. Youngsters often stay home. The open question is the effectiveness of the get out to vote drive.
 
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Yes, there are MORE Democrats, but nowhere near a majority of potential voters, or of actual voters.
That's true.
I think that the enthusiasm difference between Biden and Harris is huge. Trump no longer has a large advantage in enthusiasm.
I think you're right about this.
Democrats still aren't favored. Youngsters often stay home. The open question is the effectiveness of the get out to vote drive.
Killing Acorn was a major coup for the Republicans as they did register people and got the vote out. Younger people were not going to vote for Biden even if they disliked Donald, but there is enthusiasm for Harris, especially among minorities and women. For some reason, a lot of women distrust adjudicated sexual assaulters.
 
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Trump won among white women in both 2016 and 2020.

 
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That was also before Dobbs, which probably helps explain the change.
 
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Yeah that’s what “of the vote” means.
Except that is not what the initial comment claimed. This is what was said:
Oh, so Democrats are not a majority of voters? Seems odd that Biden could set a record without having a majority and beat an incumbent who got more votes than when he was elected.
Hence my statement that it was simply a majority of people who voted attempting to disabuse those who seem to think that actually means democrats are THE majority of voters overall.
You should really follow the conversation more closely......
 
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For those not familiar with ACORN here is a short blurb from wiki explaining it demise.

In the U.S., ACORN suffered a damaging nationwide controversy in the fall of 2009 after James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles secretly recorded, and released videos of interactions with low-level ACORN personnel in several of their offices. In the videos, James poses as a pimp attempting to start a brothel with underage immigrant girls from Central America. ACORN personnel attempt to help James with housing his brothel. Multiple investigations were conducted and found that the released tapes were selectively edited to portray ACORN as negatively as possible, and found James O'Keefe's recordings violated privacy laws in Maryland and California.[6] The organization conducted its own audits and cooperated with investigations of employees, referring some cases to law enforcement. Not one of the cases were forward to a judge. In the meantime, however, the organization suffered an immediate loss of funding from government agencies with which it had contracts and from private donors.[7][8][9]

If women distrust adjudicated sexual assaulters I wonder how they would feel about government agencies supporting an organization attempting to help set up brothels?
 
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Having reread the exchanges, we seem to agree, but given the nature of these forums and our own histories may have trouble understanding when we’ve reached a consensus.
 
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Trump won among white women in both 2016 and 2020.
Seriously? Shame on my kind!
Whelp, I guess this goes to show that women are not of a monolithic hive mind and will, all too often, vote for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
 
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How are you defining "last minute"? They haven't even held the DNC yet.



I think last minute is apropos here. I mean, primaries are over, the candidate was chosen, and all we were missing was the blessing from the DNC. I guess maybe that's why we had such an abnormally early debate, to give the DNC a chance to cut bait and run.
 
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The main part of the campaign use to start on Labor Day. Now it starts the day after the last convention.

100 days is a lot of time. The Democrats will be able to use their convention to tweak promote their platform and to actively attack Vance.
 
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The main part of the campaign use to start on Labor Day. Now it starts the day after the last convention.

Makes you wonder why the first Presidential debate was so early then. Before either candidate was officially chosen. Odd.

100 days is a lot of time.

Oh, most definitely. In an election cycle, it's a lifetime. Still doesn't change the fact that Democrats have made history this election cycle by putting a candidate on a Presidential debate stage against the other party and then pulling him out of the race. Pretty sure that's never happened before.

The Democrats will be able to use their convention to tweak promote their platform and to actively attack Vance.

Yes, sadly politics has become not about what you stand for, but who you can attack the most.
 
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I'd say the biggest lie is Trump is a white supremacist...or leader of them...or puppet of Putin.

There's never been any evidence of either, but a lot of people believe them.

The Biden thing was just increasingly obvious. Yes he had declined in 2020...but it wasn't as bad. He could stand in front of a crowd and make relative sense to a crowd for an hour or two for the primary.

By debate 2024, he couldn't get through 5 minutes and make a coherent sentence or idea.

Honest would be removing him...but unfortunately, they didn't want Harris in power either lol. She's not bright.
 
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Do you think it's too late for the GOP? Poor fat old Donald isn't looking/sounding too well lately.
 
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