I'm not saying it is not valid scripture. I am saying there is no way of validating it. As you and Ken Ham say, "were you there". Who decided what was to be scripture and what was not, and when?
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I'm not saying it is not valid scripture. I am saying there is no way of validating it. As you and Ken Ham say, "were you there". Who decided what was to be scripture and what was not, and when?Do you have anything you hold sacred?
How do you defend its authenticity?
How is our money ascertained to be legal tender?I'm not saying it is not valid scripture. I am saying there is no way of validating it. As you and Ken Ham say, "were you there". Who decided what was to be scripture and what was not, and when?
That's a ridiculous analogy.How is our money ascertained to be legal tender?
If you can answer that, then I'm sure you can do the same for the sixty-six books of the Bible -- if you want to.
Prove it.
I got that from a book by Lee Strobel.That's a ridiculous analogy.
And, of course, Jesus played along with it, didn't He?
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
That doesn't negate the fact that the analogy is ridiculous.I got that from a book by Lee Strobel.
One man's analogy is another man's ridiculousity, isn't it?That doesn't negate the fact that the analogy is ridiculous.
There is no comparison in the analogy whatsoever.One man's analogy is another man's ridiculousity, isn't it?
That's because It was already verified.There is no comparison in the analogy whatsoever.
Our money is easily verifiable as legal tender, through physical examination which is verifiable by the people who issue it. No scripture is not verifiable as authentic because there is no physical means by which anyone can verify it.
That's because It was already verified.
As Lee Strobel pointed out, these councils were not convened to create an authorized list of books, they were convened to create a list of authorized books.
If someone is put in a room full of currency and told to separate them into two piles: one pile consisting of legal tender and one pile consisting of unauthorized tender, it would be no problem:
One dollar bill = here.
Two dollar bill = here.
Three dollar bill = there.
Four dollar bill = there.
Five dollar bill = here.
Six dollar bill = there.
Seven dollar bill = there.
Eight dollar bill = there.
Nine dollar bill = there.
Ten dollar bill = here.
Same for the Scriptures.
Genesis here.
I Infancy there.
Ecclesiastes here.
II Infancy there.
etc.
66 books of authorized Scripture.
14 books of apocrypha.
The rest are pseudepigrapha.
Ya.You still don't get it.
And as for the Nicean Councils, what was considered scripture or not scripture was heavily debated and caused many different sects of Christianity to be formed.
Translation and interpretation was and still continues to be a problem.
Not to mention that there are numerous conflicts within the bible itself.
Wow, an eight page derailment courtesy of AV. Why do people still take the bait?
And can you daisy-chain yourself to Noah?Oh, but indeed I can.
If you can't daisy-chain life from cyanobacteria to man, then don't expect me to play along with evolution's paper skeletons.
QV please:Staking the position that the current Bible book list is a divine production, a fetish of sorts, the Word of God, is intellectual AND spiritual laziness! It's hiding the talents under a rock. Should Christ return today they would present him with the book as principle and interest. "Here it is, we allowed nothing to be added nor taken away from it."
The train left the station long ago, we will pursue truth wherever it takes us; the material facts of creation via evolution, and the spiritual truths of the Living God as we discern the objective reality of God subjectively.
Hi,
I have just joined this forum and when filling out my religion selected 'Christian-seeker' as I am seeking to find out more about Christianity. Am I right in doing this, or does 'Christian-Seeker' mean something else?
Thanks for any help.
You certainly put up a fightQV please:
I don't need to daisy-chain myself to Noah.And can you daisy-chain yourself to Noah?
If you can't daisy-chain yourself to Noah, then don't expect me to play along with your Flood stories.
Thanks for the reminder. Yes, we took AV's bait and I'm sure he is a happy camper for turning attention away from scientific discussion.Yea it's pretty difficult to follow the original discussion in these conditions...maybe the sidetracks could be moved to their own thread...
I posted some more material relevant to the OP here:
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...fossil-sequence.7880422/page-25#post-68027951
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...fossil-sequence.7880422/page-28#post-68029252
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