Magnetic lines are magnetic lines. They do not have a temperature. It is as silly as asking for the temperature of gravity. Material within the magnetic lines do have a temperature. I think you are confusing the two.
No, you seem to be "dumbing down" a physical plasma structure, and a current carrying process in plasma to a simple "magnetic line". A flux rope is not a simple magnetic line. It's a "Bennett Pinch" in plasma according to Alfven. It's a current carrying thread of *plasma* that has a temperature, and has real "physical substance".
You're apparently confusing basic magnetism with plasma physics.
In terms of solar physics, you'll have to talk MHD theory.
There are circulating charged particles which can produce magentic lines.
The flux rope is a "tornado" like vortex of spinning plasma. It's "pinched" together by the magnetic fields that surround the "current" running through the flux rope. There is both an *ion* temperature to discuss, and the electron temperature as well, and they can vary by several orders of magnitude according to Alfven.
You need areas that are COOLER, not hotter. Going deeper and still getting hotter.
You've never demonstrated that claim! As we descend into the solar atmosphere, we reach a *million* degree corona. It gives way to a 20,000K "chromosphere" as we descend. That 20,000 degree chromosphere gives way to a 4500-6000 degree "photosphere". You're just *assuming* it get's "hotter" from there *in spite of the fact* that *lower* temperature plasmas are often seen in sunspot umbras.
In your magical word, somehow million degree "flux ropes" somehow "cool off" 5800K plasma. How does that work exactly? Talk about thermodynamic impossibilities!
You mean the plasma that is kept at the surface of the sun so that it can radiate more heat? This doesn't solve the problem of increasing heat with depth in the photosphere.
You've not actually demonstrated your claim about temperature increasing with depth, nor have you explained how million degree flux ropes "cool off" 5800K plasmas that we observe in the umbra.
What are these peer reviewed solar mathematical models that include observations of cooler layers below the photosphere?
Cute. Rather than address the mathematical models I handed to you on a silver platter, you ignored those completely and demand more. I love your denial, run, hide, more denial routines. In case you didn't notice, your opportunity to reciprocate gracefully on the origin of flux ropes came and went about 2 weeks ago.
Even when I show you mass movement up and through the surface of the photosphere, you pretty much ignored it.
Yes, there is. The photosphere goes from emitting the light we see to opaque, and it only gets hotter the deeper you go.
This is *only true in *your* model*. It does not apply to a Birkeland cathode solar model. Do you understand that each model has to be judged based upon it's *own* claims and physical characteristics?
When you can explain how umbra temperatures are *lower* as a result of *million degree* flux ropes around the umbra, let me know. Until then you're just stuck in pure denial at this point. Every image fits together like a glove, and fits together with the math. You don't care.
And yet the entire field of solar scientists disagree. Denial much?
No, not the entire industry:
Weak solar convection – approximately 100 times slower than scientists had previously projected | Watts Up With That?
“Our current theoretical understanding of magnetic field generation in the Sun relies on these motions being of a certain magnitude,” explained Shravan Hanasoge, an associate research scholar in geosciences at Princeton University and a visiting scholar at NYU’s Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences. “These convective motions are currently believed to prop up large-scale circulations in the outer third of the Sun that generate magnetic fields.”
“However, our results suggest that convective motions in the Sun are nearly 100 times smaller than these current theoretical expectations,” continued Hanasoge, also a postdoctoral fellow at the Max Plank Institute in Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany. “If these motions are indeed that slow in the Sun, then the most widely accepted theory concerning the generation of solar magnetic field is broken, leaving us with no compelling theory to explain its generation of magnetic fields and the need to overhaul our understanding of the physics of the Sun’s interior.”
I even invited Bridgman to join our conversation if he was so inclined, but he's unwilling to even lend you a hand, even after trying to take credit for your "catch" of my mistake.
There is no "transition region" in the upper solar atmosphere. That concept is directly related to limb images that simply show that the so called transition region in the chromosphere, is nothing more than a change in the chromosphere from being transparent to being opaque to those high energy wavelengths. Those limb images tell us *absolutely nothing* about the actual origin of flux ropes. Kosovichev's model is not all that radically different from Alfven's model actually and both of them put the origin of million degree plasmas *under* the photosphere.
You just can't accept that "electrical discharges" can occur both above and below the surface of the photosphere in a cathode solar model, and that "prediction" just so happens to jive with various flares that come up and *through* the surface of the photosphere.
