The Davinci Code

[NeoScribe]

'Cause bad news sells, in their opinion.

 

[Easystreet]

I enjoyed it. I don't like that certain people can't seem to get that its fiction. Even some stuff on the fact sheet. Just head on over to wikipedia and see for yourself. I also dislike that certain people want a disclaimer before a fictional movie.

I don't see how reading it is so horrible. If you have strong enough faith, it will just be what it is. A fiction novel.

I can appreciate that people will have different views.

Please let me make a kind statement and then everyone can reflect on it.

First, I will assume that Dan Brown is not saved. Also, I will assume that everyone that worked on the book and movie are not saved.

Second, to the lost world looking for answers as we were before we were saved it could very well have to outcomes. One being for some they look deeper into "Who is this Jesus" and come out finding out the truth and the other group only causing them to reject the truth even more.

Now, here is my concern. I am speaking as a Christian here and addressing Christians. I will use myself as the example.

Here is how I will do it. Gordon, that is me, would you write a book that blasphemes Jesus? No I would not.

Why? It is only fiction. Fiction or not as it is being sold to the public it is still blasphemous. This book and movie moves outside the respectable and acceptable debate on purity, holiness, and fictionally or not labels Christ as a sinful man.

Gordon, that is me, what is your fear with respect to writing or producing such a work? My life, my soul, my relationship with Chris. You can not call God a sinner and expect not to experience the justice of God in God's time.

My prayer is that Dan Brown and all who OK this book and movie will repent of their sin, turn to God and accept Jesus as God and Savior.

Can anyone really call God a sinner? Is there anyone brave enough to do that? This is what Dan Brown has done.

We all need to pray for Dan Brown. He is answerable to God not us but we should pray for all enemies of Christ.

In the end we will discover that the intent of this book and movie are indeed to blaspheme Christ, and Christianity. It is the handiwork of the Devil and its consequences will likewise be according to God's divine purpose for all rebellion, blaspheme, and wickedness.

Our role in Christ is Love your enemy. Let do that through prayer and a pure heart.

God Bless

 

[jak]

To me, the basic theme seems to be how God is different from the way the church portrays Him, and specially with reference to His feminine side, which in the OT Dan Brown equates with the Shekinah, and in the NT, with Mary magdalene. the consort of jesus.

Needless to say, he is rather confused in his exposition of his "theology"! If it took the best theological brains, led by the Spiirt, hundreds of years to get the Trinity straight, its not surprising that when he tries to re-package it, he makes a right mess of it.

Another objection is that he picks up a brick, and builds a whole cathedral with that. So we cannot deny that the glory of the lord was called the Shekinah...but Brown makes it into a "Her".. a female deity, counterpart of yahweh! We cannot deny that we have excluded women somewhat and been somewhat sexist in the church, down the years...Brown alleges that it is a conspiracy, rather than a failure.

We all acknowledge Mary magdalene's unique position as the first to whom Christ appeared..but brown makes her into a royal, close to divine, consort.

We all know the church has been male-dominated, a little, but Brown goes further and alleges jealous patriarchal editing of Scripture to delete all references to the wife of jesus.

We know that there was much debate over the canon...Brown again, alleges a conspiracy to edit some accepted gospels...sheer rubbish.

As for the book itself, i found it interesting to start with, but towards the end, all the symbolism and drama got real boring.

 

[tsukino_Rei]

It is not the function of a work of a successful fiction to inform people of facts. It is the function of a successful work of fiction to inspire thoughtful introspection and to inspire us to question our ideas about the world, philosophy, ethics, theology, human nature. I reiterate - the purpose should not be to tell us what to think, but rather to GET us to TO think.

It is the responsibility of every person to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. One should be able to read through the Chronicles of Narnia without becoming enraged at C.S Lewis for attempting to convince us that there is a world in which animals are like people and Santa Claus is real. =/

I've not read the DaVinci code. I have seen the movie, And I have read the research published by the authors. I found the research to be fascinating. I found many of the conclusions drawn from that research to be fanciful, far stretched, polluted with conjectures drawn more from personal opinion and personal preference, and ultimately without foundation.

That said, I am not offended by any of it. I have no need to be. I do not feel threatened by any of it. And I am made better for my journey through it.

I have nothing to hold against Dan Brown. It seems to me that he has successfully produced a novel which has inspired thought and conversation. If the novel was poorly written, then that only speaks more highly of his choice in theme.

 

[jgarden]

The Da Vinci Code is fiction in name only. It didn't sell 55million books and foster a movie on the strength of Brown's skill as an author. Many of his "theories" have been borrowed from more scholarly, non fiction works that received relatively little recognition.

The book appears to capitalize on society's longstanding mistrust and disillusionment with organized religion. The public cares less about Brown's lack of historical scholarship than it does for his ability to articulate their misgivings about the Church and its teachings.

 

[march56]

Not sure if this is the right forum for this post!!

anyone read this book?

Care to give some commnents?

Is it worth anything? I just saw it in a used book store for $5.00 hardcover 1st ed. Don't let this @#!
&>*^~ tickle your ears!
-M.C.

 

[tsukino_Rei]

Is it worth anything? I just saw it in a used book store for $5.00 hardcover 1st ed. Don't let this @#!
&>*^~ tickle your ears!
-M.C.

I've bought Shakespear and Bibles in used book stores for less. That's hardly a measure of worth. Besides, even 1st edition Dan Brown is hardly an antique.

 

[artybloke]

Unlike Judaism, In Christianity the winning side burns the books of the losing side so there is no way to know if there is any history in the DC.

Not really true. Since the discovery and translation of the Nag Hammadi scrolls, we have had lots of information we didn't have before. Not even a hint that Mary Magdalene and Jesus were married except for a kiss on the (hole in the manuscript.)

 

[artybloke]

No offense but how could a book of fiction be enlightening?

Why can't a book of fiction be enlightening? Isn't that supposed to be one of the distinguishing marks of great literature? Like, say, Homer's Odyssey, Great Expectations, or To Kill A Mockingbird?

Not that Dan Brown could hold a candle to any of them...

 

[Easystreet]

Novel or not. Fiction of not. There is intent in this work to discredit Christianity.

Not down on fiction at large, but a book that completely distorts facts with fiction concerning the established truth of Scripture goes beyond normal fiction to what I simply see it as an all out attempt to blaspheme Christ and to do as much discredit truth as he possibly can.

The establishment of the cannon of Scripture was in tack long before Nicaea. Further more Nicaea did not deal with this issue.

The gnostic gospels have no credibility at all. They are proven false writings.

The gnostics are non historical or should we say anti-historical. They containi little narative adn have no sense of chronology.

No interest in geography and historical context.

Statements such as the following from the gospel of thomas "Blessings on the lion if a human eats it, making the lion human. Foul is the human if a lion eats it, making the lion human."

Here is some more fulishness: The document states that Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

If some one were to write such non-sense today they would be laughed out of this world. It is total foolishness. What kind of sick person would think this ideodic stuff is worth consideration to start with?

Gnosticism is a platonic self indulgent way of thinking and distorting the truth.

 

[artybloke]

Many of his "theories" have been borrowed from more scholarly, non fiction works that received relatively little recognition

I've just seen this. There's nothing "scholarly" about Holy Blood/Holy Grail specuation. It's a bunch of speculative theories based on hoaxes like the Priory of Sion, Templar mythology and an extrapolation from Gnostic texts that is fantastical in the extreme. It's another sign of the human need for conspiracy theories to explain things. Mixed in with anti-Catholicism, no doubt.

There's lots of perfectly good reasons to want to criticise organised religion without all this hooey.

But if you think it's a good read, go ahead and read it. Only don't call it literature.

 

[Easystreet]

I've just seen this. There's nothing "scholarly" about Holy Blood/Holy Grail specuation. It's a bunch of speculative theories based on hoaxes like the Priory of Sion, Templar mythology and an extrapolation from Gnostic texts that is fantastical in the extreme. It's another sign of the human need for conspiracy theories to explain things. Mixed in with anti-Catholicism, no doubt.

There's lots of perfectly good reasons to want to criticise organised religion without all this hooey.

But if you think it's a good read, go ahead and read it. Only don't call it literature.

Amen to that - good post.

 

[Easystreet]

Dr. Erwin Lutzer states, "We can understand why in the second century Irenaeus, commenting about how the gnostics used the Bible in his day, said that gnosticism is like taking a beautiful picture of a king and reassembling it to become a picture of a fox. No wonder Peter, speaking of false teachers, wrote, "Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with storiew they have made up" II Peter 2:2-3

As it was then, so it is today!"

 

[Easystreet]

More thoughts on Dan Brown's insanity. Dan many people are praying for you that you will surrender your life to Christ.

Christ will be marred one day. That is correct. No he did not marry while on earth but the day is coming when he will marry his bride. The body of Christ is his bride and he is coming for his bride at the rapture. The wedding feast will be at the second coming as he brings his bride with him from heaven at the second coming. Will you be there?

 

[HunterRose]

First, I will assume that Dan Brown is not saved. Also, I will assume that everyone that worked on the book and movie are not saved.

Why make that assumption?

Do you define “saved” as being in agreement with your personal views and beliefs?

Second, to the lost world looking for answers as we were before we were saved it could very well have to outcomes. One being for some they look deeper into "Who is this Jesus" and come out finding out the truth and the other group only causing them to reject the truth even more.

Do you mean seekers may reject the truth or come to conclusions that differ from your own? You seem to be expressing fear of the latter.

Now, here is my concern. I am speaking as a Christian here and addressing Christians. I will use myself as the example.

Here is how I will do it. Gordon, that is me, would you write a book that blasphemes Jesus? No I would not.

The DaVInci Code “blasphemes” Jesus?

I didn’t see that.

What I read in the book was the message that one does not need an intermediary between oneself and God. That is there is no need for churches or Preachers or even the bible…there is me and there is God, do I really need anything else?

Why? It is only fiction. Fiction or not as it is being sold to the public it is still blasphemous. This book and movie moves outside the respectable and acceptable debate on purity, holiness, and fictionally or not labels Christ as a sinful man.

Outside the “respectable” according to whose standards? Yours?

Gordon, that is me, what is your fear with respect to writing or producing such a work? My life, my soul, my relationship with Chris. You can not call God a sinner and expect not to experience the justice of God in God's time.

Call God a sinner? And where exactly did this happen in the DaVinci Code?

Are you claiming that marriage is a sin?

My prayer is that Dan Brown and all who OK this book and movie will repent of their sin, turn to God and accept Jesus as God and Savior.

I guess I missed “though shall not read Dan Brown novels” when I read the ten commandments.

Can anyone really call God a sinner? Is there anyone brave enough to do that? This is what Dan Brown has done.

Again can you specifically site where Mr. Brown does this?

We all need to pray for Dan Brown. He is answerable to God not us but we should pray for all enemies of Christ.

Enemy of Christ?

How exactly?

Does disagreeing with you qualify one as an “enemy of Christ”?

 

[RomanPrincess]

the divinci code book may have some use after all.....i can use the pages from that book as toliet paper while im camping in the woods.........LOLLLLLL

total poopie......