The CURE for homosexuality!!!!!!!!

[davedjy]

Non-existent, yet there are now 3 members who said there is concrete,

absolute proof this is a "disease that can be cured".

Anyone care to pony up the proof of this?

 

[Der Alte]

Non-existent, yet there are now 3 members who said there is concrete,

absolute proof this is a "disease that can be cured".

Anyone care to pony up the proof of this?

Personal testimonies of ex-homosexuals who haver been cured and all such testimonies drive practicing gays into a mindless rage, because it is walking, breathing proof that all their scripture twisting and excuses are false.

How Jesus Heals us Through His Church
- Andrew Comiskey

We are a people of desire--desires that can drive us toward noble and true expressions of our humanity, and desires that can reduce us to the animal kingdom--the rat in the wheel.
The only way that transformation can occur is through Christ and His community. As we come broken into the church, His faithful love can transform our desires. This is with the help of the church, not in spite of her. Jesus' body on earth has the authority to convert the rat into a saint. I will use my own story of healing from homosexuality to demonstrate how Jesus, through His community, transforms our desires.

25 years ago, I began this process of transformation. My starting point was as a practicing homosexual. Today I can join with the Psalmist in proclaiming: "You, Father, have satisfied my desires with good things, so that my youth is renewed like the eagle's. The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed."(Ps 103:5,6)

http://www.desertstream.org/healing homosexuality.htm

Response of a former homosexual to this page:
As a former homosexual sex addict, I found your pages, "Homosexuality: Seeing Past the Propaganda," refreshingly insightful and consistent with what so many of us who have left homosexuality -- disillusioned and disgusted with the reality of so-called 'gay life' -- have experienced.
-- Ben Newman,

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/


Another Way Out

Like you, we never chose to have homosexual feelings. So we couldn’t simply choose not to have them. We couldn’t just wish them away or will them away.

But we discovered that we could address the root causes of the conflict – which wasn’t really about sex at all. Rather, the longing for male love was, for us at least, really a deep, unmet need from childhood and youth:

· A longing for a father’s affirmation, perhaps. Or a mentor’s guidance. A peer group’s inclusion. Or our own internal sense of just being “one of the guys.”

What we really needed was to fulfill – rather than suppress – the underlying, core need: a need not for sex or romance with men but for brotherly love. For male community. For self acceptance. And affirmation, as a man among men.

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/​

 

[HisKid1973]

Jesus can heal anyone of anything..Physical, emotional, spiritual..

 

[Gusoceros]

Non-existent, yet there are now 3 members who said there is concrete,

absolute proof this is a "disease that can be cured".

Anyone care to pony up the proof of this?

This seems to be ignored.

God can change all, and give all the desires of their heart.

We should expect to have temptation to sin removed from our life experience?

Lastly- God will not allow us to be tempted more than we can bear.

G

 

[intricatic]

3mg Holy Spirit, 9 hours of sleep, and call God in the morning.

 

[davedjy]

Personal testimonies of ex-homosexuals who haver been cured and all such testimonies drive practicing gays into a mindless rage, because it is walking, breathing proof that all their scripture twisting and excuses are false.

How Jesus Heals us Through His Church
- Andrew Comiskey

We are a people of desire--desires that can drive us toward noble and true expressions of our humanity, and desires that can reduce us to the animal kingdom--the rat in the wheel.
The only way that transformation can occur is through Christ and His community. As we come broken into the church, His faithful love can transform our desires. This is with the help of the church, not in spite of her. Jesus' body on earth has the authority to convert the rat into a saint. I will use my own story of healing from homosexuality to demonstrate how Jesus, through His community, transforms our desires.

25 years ago, I began this process of transformation. My starting point was as a practicing homosexual. Today I can join with the Psalmist in proclaiming: "You, Father, have satisfied my desires with good things, so that my youth is renewed like the eagle's. The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed."(Ps 103:5,6)

http://www.desertstream.org/healing homosexuality.htm

Response of a former homosexual to this page:
As a former homosexual sex addict, I found your pages, "Homosexuality: Seeing Past the Propaganda," refreshingly insightful and consistent with what so many of us who have left homosexuality -- disillusioned and disgusted with the reality of so-called 'gay life' -- have experienced.
-- Ben Newman,

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/


Another Way Out

Like you, we never chose to have homosexual feelings. So we couldn’t simply choose not to have them. We couldn’t just wish them away or will them away.

But we discovered that we could address the root causes of the conflict – which wasn’t really about sex at all. Rather, the longing for male love was, for us at least, really a deep, unmet need from childhood and youth:

· A longing for a father’s affirmation, perhaps. Or a mentor’s guidance. A peer group’s inclusion. Or our own internal sense of just being “one of the guys.”

What we really needed was to fulfill – rather than suppress – the underlying, core need: a need not for sex or romance with men but for brotherly love. For male community. For self acceptance. And affirmation, as a man among men.

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/​

This is a HUGE twisting of the truth...spray painting on a restroom stall, as you call it. Homosexual attraction and "the longing for male attention" is not always linked. Your study proves absolutely nothing, but that it was written out of either sheer ignorance or deception.

 

[Gusoceros]

This is a HUGE twisting of the truth...spray painting on a restroom stall, as you call it. Homosexual attraction and "the longing for male attention" is not always linked. Your study proves absolutely nothing, but that it was written out of either sheer ignorance or deception.

One thing I like about Der Alter is that he cites source for his claims.

G

 

[davedjy]

One thing I like about Der Alter is that he cites source for his claims.

G

Oh, and I never do?


http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/resolution97.html

http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/

 

[davedjy]

3mg Holy Spirit, 9 hours of sleep, and call God in the morning.

As if we all haven't tried that... Do you think anyone should take this post seriously?

 

[davedjy]

(Chicago, August 14, 1997). The Council of Representatives of the American Psychological Association (APA) has passed a resolution affirming four basic principles with regard to treatments to alter sexual orientation, so-called conversion or reparative therapies.

These principles are:

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder and the APA opposes all portrayals of lesbian, gay and bisexual people as mentally ill and in need of treatment due to their sexual orientation;

Psychologists do not knowingly participate in or condone discriminatory practices with lesbian, gay and bisexual clients;

Psychologists respect the rights of individuals, including lesbian, gay and bisexual clients to privacy, confidentiality, self-determination and autonomy;

Psychologists obtain appropriate informed consent to therapy in their work with lesbian, gay and bisexual clients.
The resolution further states that the APA "urges all mental health professionals to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with homosexual orientation."

Supporters of the resolution, which passed the APA Council overwhelmingly by a voice vote, believed that it was critical for the Association to make such a statement due to the questions of the ethics, efficacy and benefits of conversion therapy which are now being debated within the profession and within society as a whole.

"Our concern," stated Douglas Haldeman, Ph.D., President of APA's Society for the Psychological Study Of Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Issues, "is that a person, especially a young person, who enters into therapy to deal with issues of sexual orientation should be able to have the expectation that such therapy would take place in a professionally neutral environment absent of any societal bias. Additionally, therapists should be providing clients with accurate information about same-sex sexual orientation. This resolution reasserts the profession's commitment to those two principles."

The APA Council of Representatives is the major legislative and policy-setting body of the organization. The American Psychological Association (APA), in Washington, DC, is the largest scientific and professional organization representing psychology in the United States and is the world's largest association of psychologists. APA's membership includes more than 151,000 researchers, educators, clinicians, consultants and students. Through its divisions in 50 subfields of psychology and affiliations with 58 state, territorial and Canadian provincial associations, APA works to advance psychology as a science, as a profession and as a means of promoting human welfare.

 

[Gusoceros]

Oh, and I never do?


http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/resolution97.html

http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/

You quip without source frequently- it isnt that big of a deal- unless you think you are proving something with it.

As for these links- what are they for?

 

[davedjy]

You quip without source frequently- it isnt that big of a deal- unless you think you are proving something with it.

As for these links- what are they for?

Proves any type of "conversion therapy" is STRONGLY condemned by every credible mental health foundation in America.

 

[davedjy]

Major organizations that reject reparative therapy include the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Counseling Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Association of School Administrators, the American Federation of Teachers, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Education Association. [1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparative_therapy

 

[Gusoceros]

Proves any type of "conversion therapy" is STRONGLY condemned by every credible mental health foundation in America.

What does that have to do with God being able to change people?

 

[davedjy]

What does that have to do with God being able to change people?

That God doesn't need to or want to, that it doesn't bother God at all. I cite UNBIASED sources for my claims, do you have any unbiased sources?

 

[Gusoceros]

That God doesn't need to or want to, that it doesn't bother God at all. I cite UNBIASED sources for my claims, do you have any unbiased sources?

It shows nothing of the sort- you cited claims that some people believe reparative therapy is bad. This does not prove limitations on God- in fact they are irrelevant to God's changing power. To suggest so, is to say that homosexuality is greater than God- a silly position I think we can both agree on.

G

 

[davedjy]

It shows nothing of the sort- you cited claims that some people believe reparative therapy is bad. This does not prove limitations on God- in fact they are irrelevant to God's changing power. To suggest so, is to say that homosexuality is greater than God- a silly position I think we can both agree on.

G

Did I say "homosexuality" was greater than God? If God creates people a certain way He doesn't see them as a mistake or try to fix what He created.

My citings come from actual doctors with PHDs and every credible MENTAL Health foundation. My position is that unless you can somehow refute someone w/those credentials (using your own credentials and knowledge), I would think you don't even have one leg to stand on.

 

[intricatic]

Did I say "homosexuality" was greater than God? If God creates people a certain way He doesn't see them as a mistake or try to fix what He created.

My citings come from actual doctors with PHDs and every credible MENTAL Health foundation. My position is that unless you can somehow refute someone w/those credentials (using your own credentials and knowledge), I would think you don't even have one leg to stand on.

I think we need to get something worked out here because I'm seeing some weirdness. Do you still believe that homosexuality is the result of the fall and not God's original intent for human sexuality?

 

[davedjy]

I think we need to get something worked out here because I'm seeing some weirdness. Do you still believe that homosexuality is the result of the fall and not God's original intent for human sexuality?

I don't know, I really don't care at this point...that won't change my position on whether it's a sin or not, anyways. I would rather it just be the way people are created, since then it doesn't mean that it's a defect.

 

[Gusoceros]

I don't know, I really don't care at this point...that won't change my position on whether it's a sin or not, anyways. I would rather it just be the way people are created, since then it doesn't mean that it's a defect.

Well- I think this would be something important to figure out.

G