The Cross

[Tony Merritt]

I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to this question.What type of wood was the cross made of? I have heard of at least three types. One is dogwood,which I personally do not think it was.One was the cedars of lebanon.And the other,olive tree wood,which I have never heard of. Thank you in advance.


Tony Merritt

 

[Lonnie]

I dont know... First up though, you should try finding out what the romans made most of there Cross's out of. That might help. I am new here, but I think this place is awsome! Ill get some friends to come to this site!

 

[Lyle]

I would look at Roman architechure(sp?) in that region and see what was common. i don't think the Dogwood was a common tree of the middle east, though I could be wrong... But that's an interesting thought, though you have to realize the main center pole was kept after everytime they killed someone, but the top beam they changed... So it might have been different kinds of wood, depending on the season...
Or maybe they just wacked up the first tree they came to and didn't really care if was all the same, ya know...

 

[Valid Name]

Greetings Tony!

I grew up in a Catholic school, and was always taught that the tree was dogwood. I can remember later talking to a friend who told me that the tree was definatly Ceder. I remember snarling at him and thinking - yeah, he knows.

I learned later that the Tree was Ceder - and strangly enough, I attend his assembly now.

Messiah often told us that he came to Fulfill scripture. And he did. We of course know he was a sacrifice right?

I will not give this answer, however I will lead you to it quite easily.

Read Numbers 19. This was a statue of the Torah for purification from sin. Messiah's blood is of course purification from sin right? Read this story of the Red Heifer as though it was Messiah - Can you find the similarities? See if what happens to the Red Heifer Happens to Messiah - Does it?

Read now Again Numbers 19:6. Ceder, Scarlet, and Hyssop were to be added to the burning of the Heifer. Get a bible search engine and search the Gospels for these - were these things added to the death of Messiah? Imagine what else the Heifer can tell you about his death.

Peace,
Valid Name

 

[Wolseley]

The Vatican has sections of wood taken from what it has officially judged to be the true Cross that Jesus was crucified on; these have been examined and found to be pine of a type commonly found in Palestine.

Take it for whatever its worth.

 

[Tony Merritt]

I dont know... First up though, you should try finding out what the romans made most of there Cross's out of. That might help. I am new here, but I think this place is awsome! Ill get some friends to come to this site!

Thank you Lonnie.This will help me in my search.


Tony

 

[Tony Merritt]

When I was in Israel, the prefessors and people I spoke to believe it was an Olive Tree.
Those are the trees that grow in the vicinity.

Thank you Pray. I have also heard this from some other people.


Tony

 

[Tony Merritt]

I would look at Roman architechure(sp?) in that region and see what was common. i don't think the Dogwood was a common tree of the middle east, though I could be wrong... But that's an interesting thought, though you have to realize the main center pole was kept after everytime they killed someone, but the top beam they changed... So it might have been different kinds of wood, depending on the season...
Or maybe they just wacked up the first tree they came to and didn't really care if was all the same, ya know...

Thanks Lyle.


Tony

 

[Tony Merritt]

The Vatican has sections of wood taken from what it has officially judged to be the true Cross that Jesus was crucified on; these have been examined and found to be pine of a type commonly found in Palestine.

Take it for whatever its worth.

Thank you Wolseley.


Tony

 

[Tony Merritt]

Greetings Tony!

I grew up in a Catholic school, and was always taught that the tree was dogwood. I can remember later talking to a friend who told me that the tree was definatly Ceder. I remember snarling at him and thinking - yeah, he knows.

I learned later that the Tree was Ceder - and strangly enough, I attend his assembly now.

Messiah often told us that he came to Fulfill scripture. And he did. We of course know he was a sacrifice right?

I will not give this answer, however I will lead you to it quite easily.

Read Numbers 19. This was a statue of the Torah for purification from sin. Messiah's blood is of course purification from sin right? Read this story of the Red Heifer as though it was Messiah - Can you find the similarities? See if what happens to the Red Heifer Happens to Messiah - Does it?

Read now Again Numbers 19:6. Ceder, Scarlet, and Hyssop were to be added to the burning of the Heifer. Get a bible search engine and search the Gospels for these - were these things added to the death of Messiah? Imagine what else the Heifer can tell you about his death.

Peace,
Valid Name

WOW! Thank you Valid Name. I have read that many times,but never put the two together.As far as the wood I mean.Thanks again.


Tony

 

[Garry Denke]

I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to this question. What type of wood was the cross made of? I have heard of at least three types. One is dogwood, which I personally do not think it was. One was the cedars of lebanon. And the other, olive tree wood, which I have never heard of. Thank you in advance. Tony Merritt

Jesus said, "Quercus virginiana wood". I did not know what that meant, so I looked it up. Turns out Quercus virginiana is the species name for the Live oak. So I asked Jesus, "In the Bible, what is Live oak wood?" And Jesus said, "Live oak wood is Gopher [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]tim wood." Well, there you have it Tony Merritt, the type of wood the cross was made of, according to Jesus, the Christ.

Blessings,

Garry Denke

 

[Tony Merritt]

Jesus said, "Quercus virginiana wood". I did not know what that meant, so I looked it up. Turns out Quercus virginiana is the species name for the Live oak. So I asked Jesus, "In the Bible, what is Live oak wood?" And Jesus said, "Live oak wood is Gopher [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]tim wood." Well, there you have it Tony Merritt, the type of wood the cross was made of, according to Jesus, the Christ.

Blessings,

Garry Denke

Thanks Garry. I wondered about this type of wood also.For this is the type of wood Noah built the ark of.


Tony

 

[MAC]

What about this one;

qt

A microscopic examination of the fragments of the Cross scattered through the world in the form of relics reveals the fact that it was made from a pine tree. As noted by the Evangelists, two thieves were crucified, one on either side of Christ. Their crosses must have resembled the one on which He suffered; in Christian art and tradition they generally appear lower. A large portion of the cross of the good thief (traditionally known as Dismas) is preserved at Rome in the altar of the Chapel of the Relics at Santa Croce in Gerusalemme

 

[Y’VA–REKH’KHA ADONAI]

Wasn't the heifer female though? And completely burnt up?

I wonder more what kind of wood that Isaac carried up the mountian and was laid upon?

 

[Valid Name]

Greetings Y'VA-REKH'KHA ADONAI!

I must ask you what your name means! I apoligize, but I know only a few Hebrew Words.

Yes, the heifer was female,and I know what you are asking, Messiah was male!

I am sure that you know that a Woman represents the Church - But this does not mean that everyone in the Church is Female! A Female is a Physical Representation of what the Church is! If man is the represented by Christ - Does he not plant his seed into the church and bring forth life?

Now a female can bring forth milk to feed her young! Do we not start off life with milk and graduate to solid food?

Numbers 19:6 And the priest shall take cedar wood and hyssop and scarlet material, and cast it into the midst of the burning heifer.

We can see that if my premise is correct, then these things must have been present!

Matthew 27:26 Then he released Barabbas for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he delivered Him to be crucified. 27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole Roman cohort around Him. 28 And they stripped Him, and put a scarlet robe on Him.

John 19:28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, "I am thirsty." 29 A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop, and brought it up to His mouth.

We can see that Messiah knows what scriptures need to be fulfilled! Seeing that these two items were present, I believe it would stand to reason that the other one is as well! And it happens to be Ceder!

You ask was not the Heifer Burned to Ashes?

Hebrews 13:11 For the bodies of those animals whose blood is brought into the holy place by the high priest as an offering for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate.

As well Messiah was burned outside the gate! (Numbers 19:3)

It is interesting to note that the Word for 'ashes' in Numbers 19 is the same word that is used in Genesis - That is the Same 'dust' that we are made of!

This can be carried much further too! The Red Heifer was to be buried in a clean place! Must not and was not Messiah as well? Where the Ashes are distributed must have a covering! Did where Messiah was placed have a covering? And last but not least - LIVING WATER had to be added to the Ashes of the Heifer. Was LIVING WATER added to the Messiah?

I have not looked what Isaac's Alter was made of - But I can only guess if the Lamb that was killed Represented Messiah!

Peace,
Valid Name

 

[Garry Denke]

What about this one; qt A microscopic examination of the fragments of the Cross scattered through the world in the form of relics reveals the fact that it was made from a pine tree.

The problem with that one, pine tree, is that a pine tree's wood is not Quercus virginiana,
the species of the Cross on which Jesus, the Christ, gave up, and yielded up, the ghost.

The End

 

[Y’VA–REKH’KHA ADONAI]

Greetings Y'VA-REKH'KHA ADONAI!

I must ask you what your name means! I apoligize, but I know only a few Hebrew Words.

Yes, the heifer was female,and I know what you are asking, Messiah was male!

I am sure that you know that a Woman represents the Church - But this does not mean that everyone in the Church is Female! A Female is a Physical Representation of what the Church is! If man is the represented by Christ - Does he not plant his seed into the church and bring forth life?

Now a female can bring forth milk to feed her young! Do we not start off life with milk and graduate to solid food?

We can see that if my premise is correct, then these things must have been present!



We can see that Messiah knows what scriptures need to be fulfilled! Seeing that these two items were present, I believe it would stand to reason that the other one is as well! And it happens to be Ceder!

You ask was not the Heifer Burned to Ashes?


As well Messiah was burned outside the gate! (Numbers 19:3)

It is interesting to note that the Word for 'ashes' in Numbers 19 is the same word that is used in Genesis - That is the Same 'dust' that we are made of!

This can be carried much further too! The Red Heifer was to be buried in a clean place! Must not and was not Messiah as well? Where the Ashes are distributed must have a covering! Did where Messiah was placed have a covering? And last but not least - LIVING WATER had to be added to the Ashes of the Heifer. Was LIVING WATER added to the Messiah?

I have not looked what Isaac's Alter was made of - But I can only guess if the Lamb that was killed Represented Messiah!

Peace,
Valid Name

Hello! My name is Hebrew and means, "May the Lord Bless you" I got it from the Hebrew for the Aaronic Blessing, sounded cool so I used it, as well when anyone uses it or reads it they give or get a blessing from the Lord!

I'm not sure I follow your female analogy but am trying to see these signs and shadows as they are called. I am also wondering too about the day of atonement and the scarlet string there.................
As well wasn't hyssop used to spread the blood upon the lintnel ( wood) and doorposts ( wood) of the doorways of the Israelites houses in Egypt during the "Passover"?

The cedar wood and hyssop and scarlet were also used in a cleansing of leprosy.

Some believe that the wood was from the fig tree,as was the rod of Moses. Which kinda makes sense, seeing how Jesus cursed the fig tree for really no apparent reason and there is the scripture that says that anyone that hangs on a tree is cursed, so do 2+2 = 4?

Maybe since the fig tree withered away it was spotted by the Romans and cut down for a cross beam?

I don't think that the olive tree is a contenter. I have seen ones that are hundreds of years old and they are hollow inside and wouldn't be much use for a cross beam. They are very slow to grow as well, plus if you cut them down you get no olives and I think that the Romans liked olives and the oil it produced.