The Creation To The Fall "Time Gap"

[CaiperLane]

I am a believer in Creationism. I do believe there was a time gap between when God created Adam and Eve and their fall from Grace.

The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with the Lord (in fellowship). It does not say for how long. It could have been for a few hundred or a few thousand years. I doubt they would have disobeyed immedietly. There was too much to take in, take care of and learn. It was most likely after many years of "walking with the Lord".

My second theory is that even if they did walk in unison for thousands of years before the Fall, human time did not exist until the curse was enacted. So the aging (dying) process didn't begin until the Curse, therefore the time gap is only Heaven's time not earth's.

Anyone else thought about this time gap? It may explain why some scientists think our world is older than so many Creationists porport it to be.

 

[mark kennedy]

I don't think I have ever realized that there is no way of knowing how long Adam and Eve were in fellowship before the fall. They didn't have children before the fall and the Scriptures are clear that Adam 'knew' Eve so it's hard to imagine that they went thousands of years before she became pregnant.

Now, the earth may well have been created long before Adam and Eve were, I don't think so but the Scriptures certainly allow for that view. An interesting thought though, I just wonder where their kids were during these thousands of years.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Critias]

I am sure there is some gap of time, I just don't think it was thousands of years. Personally, I would think a few days to a few months. But, I don't see a real need to postulate on the time gap in this period.

I personally believe God created an universe in six days that could sustain life. If we were to scrutinize over it, as science does, then we would lead ourselves to believe it it much older than it really is. Just as the wine would look much older than it really was when Jesus turned the water to wine.

Unfortunately, Christians, nonetheless, will call God a deceiver if He did choose to create as He so stated in Genesis.

There is this rising up in Christianity today that is so heart breaking. The Roman Catholic Church recently annouced that the Bible cannot truly be trust in anything other than Theology. The history cannot be trusted with the Bible, so says the Roman Catholic Church. I disagree with the Catholics over many things, but I never thought that they would call the Bible into error.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html

Other factions I see are taking the focus off of God and putting it onto man. TEs don't want God to be heard in the public arena of science. Other Christians argue against Jesus' Deity.

It is as if Christianity is falling on itself, yet a division is taking place, by the hand of God. Separation it is.

 

[keyarch]

I am a believer in Creationism. I do believe there was a time gap between when God created

Adam and Eve and their fall from Grace

A plain reading of Genesis puts Adam at 130 years when his son Seth was born. We know that there were other children before that (Cain and Abel and maybe girls). There is no reason to think that time (and his age) would have started at the fall.

Regarding one’s creation model vs. factual scientific discovery on the age of the universe and earth - there is a model that may be without conflict of either that is from a literal reading of scripture (some translations are in error). There is no need to compromise!

Young Biological Creation:

• The universe and the core elements of the planet earth were created at some time in the ancient past. We will never know when that was or the progression.
• During the “creation week” less than 7,000 years ago (recorded by genealogy), the earth was made habitable and all the original “kinds” of biology were created.
• Most of the fossils that we find are the result of catastrophic events starting with the “global” flood and the after effects of unstable land masses soon afterward.
• Time, entropy and the laws of physics existed prior to biological life and that the “curse” had a more specific purpose or intention related to man.

 

[shernren]

TEs don't want God to be heard in the public arena of science.

taken to Origins mixed.

Caiperlane:

My second theory is that even if they did walk in unison for thousands of years before the Fall, human time did not exist until the curse was enacted. So the aging (dying) process didn't begin until the Curse, therefore the time gap is only Heaven's time not earth's.

But that would create a problem for your creationist interpretation. After all it rests on the idea that the 6 days of Genesis 1 are 6 measurable days that are 24 hours long each as experienced by humans. What you said would imply that they were 6 "heavenly" days (whatever that means) and then you'd be open to argument from day-age and old-earth points.

 

[mark kennedy]

taken to Origins mixed.

Ok, There is no reason for this to be taken to Origins mixed. Now if there is any reason then let me know via PM or a report and I will take a look at it.

But that would create a problem for your creationist interpretation. After all it rests on the idea that the 6 days of Genesis 1 are 6 measurable days that are 24 hours long each as experienced by humans. What you said would imply that they were 6 "heavenly" days (whatever that means) and then you'd be open to argument from day-age and old-earth points.

What the post said was:

human time did not exist until the curse was enacted.

There is no question raised about the six day question. It happened in 6 literal days and God did not need all day to do it either day, it happened in an instant. The main point to consider here is that time is beside the point. Think of it as a stop watch, God clicked the ticker when Eve made here first baby. There is no indication as to when this occured but it is safe to presume that is was after the fall. If Adam and Eve produced a baby before the fall the Scriptures are silent about this.

Grace and peace,
Mark