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Well, let's face it, we all come with our own preconceptions about what the Bible is supposed to be about. So, the various backgrounds represented even just on this forum cover quite a range of perspective.
There was a time when I would argue my point of view as exclusively true, in the interest of correcting others. But over time, and in the interest of learning to understand others in the church (the Body of Christ), I have taken a more open and receptive posture. I'm still growing into this, but making some progress.
I would rather understand where someone else is coming from than try to convert them to my way of thinking. But we all have something to sell, I guess.
Did you actually watch the video? I would be interested in your comments on it. Thanks.
It's not as bad as it looks on the surface. He asks some fair questions, and knows what he is talking about.
Did you actually watch the video? I would be interested in your comments on it. Thanks..
Interesting that the text indicates a sunset and sunrise for days one through three. (when the sun wasn't created until day four) --- literal of figurative?Not before the sun was created on day 4.
Is this a comparative of the accounts in Genesis chapter one and two. (two creation accounts) What was the first mortality problem you mentioned? And a "remake"? (chapter two, I suppose?)Adam (mankind) experienced morality problems due to his ego.
God re-made man into his spiritual image and it didn't go well.
He wasn't saying that he believed that personally, but that some do, which is correct. However, he is a Yale Professor, so it needs to be viewed with that in mind.I watched until about 2:45 where he lost me. "The Bible promotes polygamy and supports slavery" No, no it doesn't. Not spending 19 minutes of my life wasted on someone who thinks like that. See enough of that on here.
He wasn't saying that he believed that personally, but that some do, which is correct. However, he is a Yale Professor, so it needs to be viewed with that in mind.
What do the contradicting presentations of the creation accounts in Genesis chapters one and two mean to you? Or even the contradictions in chapter one. The sunset and sunrise each day when the sun was not created until day four, for instance. Inspired and inerrant? Who should we blame for these glaring problems?
That's another great question.Could the earth produce (bring forth) vegetation (the third day) without the presence of sunlight?
Oh good, hopefully you can clear this up for us.I will post back in detail on this tomorrow since it's gone 11:30 at night -now the weather clears up.
There are no contradictions, just human beings who can't wrap their minds around God's greatness and try and make him fit inside their own mind with it's constrictive logic and reasons.
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If God did create everything less then 10,000 years ago, why might He want it to look like it was 14 billion years old?
- Was the universe created in six literal days?
- Was Adam the first human, a created being?
- Was Adam created in the image of God, after his likeness? (appearance)
- Is the Genesis account literal, or figurative?
- Was the Genesis account based on an oral tradition? (origins myth)
- In reference to Adam, is the conclusion of the genealogy of Jesus correct? (see below)
Luke 3:38 NIV
the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
People who insist that the accounts are literal days rather than a different message.He wasn't saying that he believed that personally, but that some do, which is correct. However, he is a Yale Professor, so it needs to be viewed with that in mind.
What do the contradicting presentations of the creation accounts in Genesis chapters one and two mean to you? Or even the contradictions in chapter one. The sunset and sunrise each day when the sun was not created until day four, for instance. Inspired and inerrant? Who should we blame for these glaring problems?
If you step away from the literal reading, do you enter a place where any interpretation is valid? I was raised in a church that taught that it was literal. (the "days" and the "begats") Outside the literal reading, I am at a loss to know what to make of it. Not sure if I want to get on that boat - lolPeople who insist that the accounts are literal days rather than a different message.
The same problem exists with "The begats" when people try to use them to gauge the age of the earth.
That's not the point of providing them.
If you step away from the literal reading, do you enter a place where any interpretation is valid? I was raised in a church that taught that it was literal. (the "days" and the "begats") Outside the literal reading, I am at a loss to know what to make of it. Not sure if I want to get on that boat - lol
Theologically the creation story has to be taken at face value. If there is death before sin, then Jesus' death does not accomplish the stated end of conquering death through atonement for sin because sin is not the cause of death. And so we cannot accept a paradigm in which sin is not directly responsible for death.
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