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The Covenants

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It would seem appropriate to launch a discussion that identifies "The Covenants" that are recognized within Covenant Theology.

Please list, describe, and provide the biblical basis for, the Covenants (as you understand them). It would also be helpful to see explanation of if/how the covenants related on to another.

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The covenants as i have been tought them are these.

1) The Edenic covenant - God and man pre fall
2) The Admaic covenant - Just post fall
3) The Noahic covenant - Post flood
4) The Abrahamic covenant - Children of Isreal
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law
6) The Palestinian Covenant - Promise of Land
7) The Davidic Covenant - Christ through David seed
8) The New Covenant - Forfilment of all other Covenants
9) The Everlasting Covenant - Predestination, (Doctrine of Grace)

P.S. Most of this was from "The Covenants" (Kevin J. Coner and Ken Malmin)
 
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Antman_05 said:
The covenants as i have been tought them are these.

1) The Edenic covenant - God and man pre fall
2) The Admaic covenant - Just post fall
3) The Noahic covenant - Post flood
4) The Abrahamic covenant - Children of Isreal
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law
6) The Palestinian Covenant - Promise of Land
7) The Davidic Covenant - Christ through David seed
8) The New Covenant - Forfilment of all other Covenants
9) The Everlasting Covenant - Predestination, (Doctrine of Grace)

P.S. Most of this was from "The Covenants" (Kevin J. Coner and Ken Malmin)
Of what I know of it, I would agree with this.
 
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CardinalBaseball said:
Of what I know of it, I would agree with this.

While Covenant theology recognizes the items listed, most of them would be considered lesser covenants that are encompassed by two (possibly three) main covenants.

The Covenant of Works

Having created man in his own image as a free creature with knowledge, righteousness, and holiness, God entered into covenant with Adam that he might bestow upon him further blessing. Called variously the Edenic covenant, the Adamic covenant, the covenant of nature, the covenant of life, or preferably the covenant of works, this pact consisted of (1) a promise of eternal life upon the condition of perfect obedience throughout a probationary period; (2) the threat of death upon disobedience; and (3) the sacrament of the tree of life, or, in addition, the sacraments of paradise and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Although the term "covenant" is not mentioned in the first chapters of Genesis, it is held that all the elements of a covenant are present even though the promise of eternal life is there by implication only. Before the fall Adam was perfect but could still have sinned; had he retained his perfection throughout the probationary period, he would have been confirmed in righteousness and been unable to sin.
Inasmuch as he was acting not only for himself but representatively for mankind, Adam was a public person. His fall therefore affected the entire human race that was to come after him; all are now conceived and born in sin. Without a special intervention of God there would be no hope; all would be lost forever. Gen 2:16, 17.

The good news, however, is that God has intervened in behalf of mankind with another covenant. Unlike the earlier covenant of works, whose mandate was "Do this and you shall live" (cf. Rom. 10:5; Gal. 3:12), the covenant of grace is bestowed on men in their sinful condition with the promise that, in spite of their inability to keep any of the commandments of God, out of sheer grace he forgives their sin and accepts them as his children through the merits of his Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, on the condition of Faith.


The Covenant of Redemption

According to covenant theology, the covenant of grace (see below), established in history, is founded on still another covenant, the covenant of redemption, which is defined as the eternal pact between God the Father and God the Son concerning the salvation of mankind. Scripture teaches that within the Godhead there are three persons, the same in essence, glory, and power, objective to each other. The Father loves the Son, commissions him, gives him a people, the right to judge, and authority over all mankind (John 3:16; 5:20, 22, 36; 10:17 - 18; 17:2, 4, 6, 9, 24; Ps. 2:7 - 8; Heb. 1:8 - 13); the Son loves the Father, delights to do his will, and has shared his glory forever (Heb. 10:7; John 5:19; 17:5). The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit commune with each other; this is one of the meanings of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

On this foundation covenant theology affirms that God the Father and God the Son covenanted together for the redemption of the human race, the Father appointing the Son to be the mediator, the Second Adam, whose life would be given for the salvation of the world, and the Son accepting the commission, promising that he would do the work which the Father had given him to do and fulfill all righteousness by obeying the law of God. Thus before the foundation of the world, within the eternal being of God, it had been determined that creation would not be destroyed by sin, but that rebellion and iniquity would be overcome by God's grace, that Christ would become the new head of humanity, the Savior of the world, and that God would be glorified.


The Covenant of Grace

This covenant has been made by God with mankind. In it he offers life and salvation through Christ to all who believe. Inasmuch as none can believe without the special grace of God, it is more exact to say that the covenant of grace is made by God with believers, or the elect. Jesus said that all those whom the Father had given him would come to him and that those who come would surely be accepted (John 6:37). Herein is seen the close relation between the covenant of grace and the covenant of redemption, with the former resting on the latter. From eternity the Father has given a people to the Son; to them was given the promised Holy Spirit so that they might live in fellowship with God. Christ is the mediator of the covenant of grace inasmuch as he has borne the guilt of sinners and restored them to a saving relationship to God (Heb. 8:6; 9:15; 12:24). He is mediator, not only in the sense of arbitrator, although that is the sense in which the word is used in 1 Tim. 2:5, but in the sense of having fulfilled all the conditions necessary for procuring eternal salvation for his people.

Thus Heb. 7:22 calls Jesus the "surety" or "guarantee" of the new covenant, which is better than that which came through Moses. Within the context of this last passage repeated mention is made of God's promise to Christ and his people. He will be their God and they will be his people. He will bestow on them the grace they need to confess his name and live with him forever; in humble dependence on him for their every need, they will live in trustful obedience from day to day. This latter, called faith in Scripture, is the sole condition of the covenant, and even it is a gift of God (Eph. 2:8 - 9).

Although the covenant of grace includes various dispensations of history, it is essentially one. From the promise in the garden (Gen. 3:15), through the covenant made with Noah (Gen. 6 - 9), to the day that the covenant was established with Abraham, there is abundant evidence of God's grace. With Abraham a new beginning is made which the later, Sinaitic covenant implements and strengthens. At Sinai the covenant assumes a national form and stress is laid on the law of God. This is not intended to alter the gracious character of the covenant, however (Gal. 3:17 - 18), but it is to serve to train Israel until the time would come when God himself would appear in its midst. In Jesus the new form of the covenant that had been promised by the prophets is manifest, and that which was of a temporary nature in the old form of the covenant disappears (Jer. 31:31 - 34; Heb. 8). While there is unity and continuity in the covenant of grace throughout history, the coming of Christ and the subsequent gift of the Holy Spirit have brought rich gifts unknown in an earlier age.
 
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5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law

There isn't a single verse in Exo thru Deu that refers to one's disposition in the next life. The blessings and curses are 100% temporal.

Jushua stated that every promise God made to Moses regarding the people had been fulled and the people agreed.
 
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billwald said:
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law

There isn't a single verse in Exo thru Deu that refers to one's disposition in the next life. The blessings and curses are 100% temporal.

Jushua stated that every promise God made to Moses regarding the people had been fulled and the people agreed.

I am having a bit of difficulty understanding your response. Are you affirming "the Mosiac Covenant" as described? Are you saying that salvation during the time of Moses was through the observance of the law? Or are you making a different point altogether? I need you to help me out here.

Thanks,

Mike
 
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Antman_05 said:
The covenants as i have been tought them are these.

1) The Edenic covenant - God and man pre fall
2) The Admaic covenant - Just post fall
3) The Noahic covenant - Post flood
4) The Abrahamic covenant - Children of Isreal
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law
6) The Palestinian Covenant - Promise of Land
7) The Davidic Covenant - Christ through David seed
8) The New Covenant - Forfilment of all other Covenants
9) The Everlasting Covenant - Predestination, (Doctrine of Grace)

P.S. Most of this was from "The Covenants" (Kevin J. Coner and Ken Malmin)

OK I found the book....What was the question?
 
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3 Basic Aspects
1. Land (Palestinian)
2. Seed (Davidic)
3. Blessing (New)

Abraham had 8 sons by 3 different women, only through Sarah's son Isaac was the Covenant to be passed. Gen. 26:2-5, 24

Provisions to Isaac
1. Blessings Gen. 26:3, 24
2. Land Promised
3. Multiply descendants & become a 'people'
4. Gentiles would be blessed
5. Based on God's covenant with Abraham

These provisions were passed on to Jacob only. Gen. 28:13-15

Provisions to Jacob
1. Land Promised to Jacob and his seed en. 28:13,15
2. Seed multiplied v.14
3. Gentiles blessed through seed

Covenant provisions confirmed to all of Jacob's twelve sons, the fathers of the twelve tribes Gen. 49. Therefore, the covenant made by God with Abraham is the Biblical definition of Jewishness, the descendance of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob are by race Jews...
 
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billwald said:
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law

There isn't a single verse in Exo thru Deu that refers to one's disposition in the next life. The blessings and curses are 100% temporal.

Also to note was that not one person was "saved" via the Mosaic covenant. The whole point of the Mosaic covenant was to show that access to God was not attainable through works.

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Antman_05 said:
The covenants as i have been tought them are these.
1) The Edenic covenant - God and man pre fall
2) The Admaic covenant - Just post fall
3) The Noahic covenant - Post flood
4) The Abrahamic covenant - Children of Isreal
5) The Mosaic Covenant - Salvation through Works of the Law
6) The Palestinian Covenant - Promise of Land
7) The Davidic Covenant - Christ through David seed
8) The New Covenant - Forfilment of all other Covenants
9) The Everlasting Covenant - Predestination, (Doctrine of Grace)
P.S. Most of this was from "The Covenants" (Kevin J. Coner and Ken Malmin)

I've never heard of some of these covenants. Can you provide biblical references and terms for these covenants?

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armothe said:
Also to note was that not one person was "saved" via the Mosaic covenant. The whole point of the Mosaic covenant was to show that access to God was not attainable through works.

-A
In what way, according to your understanding, did men enter into a right relationship with God prior to the cross?

Blessings,

Mike
 
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I would say that they were saved by grace, through faith, in the messiah, to the glory of God. The sacrificial system was meant to point ahead to the savior promised to man directly after the fall. The OT Scriptures spoke about Christ and is a foreshadowing of Him.

It was not through the blood of an animal that one's sins were forgiven, otherwise the pagans of the day would have been forgiven. By that, I mean that no physical act, devoid of faith, has ever saved man. Those whose sins were covered were those who used the prescribed methods in faith.

In a similar way, we are saved by looking backward to that same messiah. When John the Baptiist looks to Jesus and declares, "Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world," he uses a present-tense, ongoing term. Jesus was just beginning his ministry and had not gone to the cross, so how else could he be taking this sin?

Simply put, through the eternal covenant of redemption.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
 
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I am just now looking into Covenant theology, having found too many holes in Dispensationalism to follow it any longer. I have not ventured too far into New Covenant theology yet, but am currently of the mind that Christ came to fulfill the same covenant, not begin a new one. I realize that He said "this cup is the new covenant" but am not sold on the idea that this means something totally new.
 
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ddub,

Here's my two cents. Human beings at all times are either under the covenant of works or the covenant of grace. If they're under the former, they stand condemned, but if under the latter, they're under grace. Therefore, to ask under which covenant are we saved is to miss the structure of the covenants, I believe.

Blessings,

aL
 
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