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Matthew 10:34-35

34 ”Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.​
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”​

The father, daughter, and mother can also refer to our spiritual family, as well.

For Jesus also says,

”For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Matthew 12:50).
 
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“Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Proverbs 27:6).
 
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You do know that the Bible, even the New Testament, isn't a perfect collection of perfect writings, right? Yes, you've heard me correctly!

I mean, it's not only the Mormons who get a lot of stuff wrong about the Bible. You apparently do too ...

And like the Mormons, you apparently don't seem to be aware of where religious interpretation and ideation ends and Reality begins, even where our Christian faith is concerned in relation to the Bible. No, all you have to offer up, like so many who affiliate with the Christian faith, is falsely attributed "Holy Spirit Hubris."

So, you might want to back off before you stumble. Remember, pride (that is, YOUR PRIDE) comes before a fall (NOT MINE, YOURS).

Got it?
 
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You just love making those Scripture pretzels, don't you? And you do so by your own authority (all the while seemingly attributing that authority to the Lord in His Spirit).

Yeah, I'm pretty sure your "preaching" here isn't by all counts from the Holy Spirit. Because your attitude sucks.
 
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“Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.” (Proverbs 27:6).

I haven't counted you as a friend yet. You're an unfortunate brother in Christ, one that I'll have to put up with apparently.

I hope you'll do the same for me.
 
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I am also against ecumenism and or interpreting the Bible liberally, which is embodiment of the Chosen series.
 
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I haven't counted you as a friend yet. You're an unfortunate brother in Christ, one that I'll have to put up with apparently.

I hope you'll do the same for me.
I posted this verse from Proverbs as more of a general truth to all believers I encounter. A true friend to the brethren in Christ is going to rebuke when necessary, and not always be loving and nice and tell them only good and smooth things.
 
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I am also against ecumenism and or interpreting the Bible liberally, which is embodiment of the Chosen series.

Well, that's just too bad, isn't it? Because I'm all about the Existentialist Epistemic Journey where engaging the entire collection of the Bible is concerned.

Where ecumenism is a possibility, I'd rather think of myself as "Trans-denominational"; that is, I like to remain ABOVE the denominational fray and instead see people as fellow human beings first BEFORE bringing the Bible up for discussion. If they happen to be Mormons, I'll shake their hand and then remain open to critically discussing their religious perspectives (however fallacious and illogical their perspective may actually turn out to be).
 
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You just love making those Scripture pretzels, don't you? And you do so by your own authority (all the while seemingly attributing that authority to the Lord in His Spirit).
The burden of proof is on you to prove that my use of Scripture is not correct. I have been known to be wrong at times on my interpretation but I would need Scripture as proof as to say otherwise. I have changed theologically on 21 things over the years.



Yeah, I'm pretty sure your "preaching" here isn't by all counts from the Holy Spirit. Because your attitude sucks.
It’s hard to determine a person’s attitude by simply writing. Jesus attitude could have been considered bad in your view when we read his rebuke of the Pharisees in Matthew 23. He called them blind guides, serpents, fools, etcetera. Nowhere did I go that far. I have not sought out to give any names but to merely point out the wrong actions and beliefs. Granted, if we are talking about a wrong church, I am talking about an entire body of wrong believers. But it is not my thing to attack individuals and smear them. The goal should be to attack the wrong belief or beliefs. That is my focus and you take correction of wrong beliefs according to the Bible as a bad attitude when that is not what it is. It’s called correction according to the Word of God. It’s leading people to see the truth of what the Bible says rather than what they prefer it to say.

For I have nothing but love for you and others here. I just disagree strongly with the acceptance of a TV show that portrays another Jesus. Seeing I am in opposition to this, I have become the enemy in some way because I am trying to expose the truth of this show with the Bible.
 
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Ecumenism is having fellowship with those of other denominations that conflict with the faith of what the Bible teaches. Granted, others do not seem to have a nailed down truth that they hold to in the Bible. Meaning, it is okay to fellowship and pray with Catholics, Mormons, etcetera. I do not believe in such a thing. Do you? Meaning, will you pray and worship with Catholics and Mormons? Would you work together with them to create the supposed “Authentic Jesus“ on the Chosen set?
 
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See............................??????????? This is what I'm talking about. You just did it again. You made a hasty generalization and false attribution about another person (me) and you didn't even catch that you did.

FACT: I don't think of you as "an enemy." So, don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say, intend to say or actually thought.
 
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I don't usually worry much about what constitutes fellowship with other people on a humanitarian, existential level. As long as they don't badger me, I'm good.

What I simply do is, when others approach me in a religious context and then seek to proselytize me, I'll let them know on which point I disagree. If they want to run away from me at that moment, that's fine by me. I've actually had that happened with people in the past---two of those individuals were Mormon. Apparently, they wanted to hit me up with their "dogma," and I simply dropped the fact to them that I have a degree in Philosophy and they were welcome to come into my house and discuss their viewpoint. .................................................. upon hearing that, funnily enough, they declined. And I said, "Ok, see ya!"
 
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While you may believe you do not regard me as an enemy, by your attacking my character instead of just the message or position, it says otherwise. You called me a drill sergeant. That is hostile name calling. I did not set out to primarily attack your character or call you names like what you have been doing. My focus is primarily on the wrong belief and not any individual on the forum.
 
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Not sure what that means. Will you worship or pray with a Mormon or Catholic? Yes, or no, my friend. A simple answer is all I am seeking here. It sounds like you would not fellowship or pray with them, but I just don’t know until you answer my question with a “yes,” or “no.” In my book, it is very important to know what a person believes because I would not fellowship or pray with a Mormon or Catholic because I am not ecumenical and or liberal.

By your first statement, you gave me the impression that you could fellowship or pray with a Mormon or Catholic as long as you don’t make it a point to ask. Is that what you are saying?
 
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No, you're the one who said that it was your "prerogative" to get preachy with others. I don't see anywhere where you said any pastor or Church organization has ordained you to "Go, correct everyone else!"

So no, I think "Drill Sergeant" accurately sums up what you're designating yourself as here on CF. Furthermore, it hasn't been established beyond the shadow of a doubt that your Hermeneutics and Biblical Exegesis are the model of interpretation which everyone else should be following. No, you just seem to assume that you've somehow got these disciplines lined out with discernment. I'm just doubting that you indeed do. Why? Is it because I'm so wise and know all where interpreting the Bible is concerned? No, I'm doubting you because I can compare your rational and praxis to that of dozens of fellow Christians who are degrees in these two fields. It's also likely that at least some of them, if not all them, have the Holy Spirit in some measure, ...............................................................just as you do.
 
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No, you're the one who said that it was your "prerogative" to get preachy with others. I don't see anywhere where you said any pastor or Church organization has ordained you to "Go, correct everyone else!"
But are you not trying to correct me?
Are you exempt?
Have you never disagreed over Scripture with another person before and try to correct them to the right way of what the Bible says?

So no, Drill Sergeant accuratley sums up what you're designating yourself as here on CF.
Name calling falls in line with making others your enemy regardless of whether you think that will happen or not.
Just start calling people names at work that they don’t like and see what happens.


Again, you are making the argument about me instead of the wrong belief or position. CF even encourages us to keep it to the topic and not make it about the individual. In other words, beyond this post, I am not going to engage with any personal comments against my character past this post. I have no need to defend myself. God will be the one who will judge me. I strive to love all others and correct wrong beliefs with the Word of God (the Bible). As i said, I strive to make it about the wrong belief and not individuals. So I will not indulge you any further on any future attacks on my character. Such posts or words will simply go ignored. My goal is to preach the truth according to God’s Word to uplift Jesus Christ and His Word.

I hope this helps you to see where I am coming from.

May God’s love shine upon you today.
 
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I would pray "for" them. And I might even buy them lunch to boot.
By your first statement, you gave me the impression that you could fellowship or pray with a Mormon or Catholic as long as you don’t make it a point to ask. Is that what you are saying?

I'm comfortable with having Christian fellowship with Roman Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ. Yes. I'd pray with them too.

However, if Mormons wanted to "fellowship" with me (some folks just call this "being sociable"), they would have to settle for a discussion over lunch at Panara Bread.
 
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But are you not trying to correct me?
Are you exempt?
Have you never disagreed over Scripture with another person before and try to correct them to the right way of what the Bible says?
I'm correcting you, yes. But not via reliance upon the Bible. I'm just appealing to your reason. Do I have to stoop to referencing the Bible in order to get you to think twice?

Nowhere have I exempted myself. In fact, if you dared to look at my background, you'd see that I'm both and Existentialist and a firm advocate of Education. I don't believe ANYONE has EVERYTHING all figured out, especially not where the Bible is concerned.
Name calling falls in line with making others your enemy regardless of whether you think that will happen or not.
Just start calling people names and work that they don’t like and see what happens.
Ok. If you think that, then stop calling folks "tares" when you don't know for sure they are.

Ok. You can ignore my Drill Sergeant comment. And I'll just ignore any cogency about unproven Tares that you might attribute to a numerous amount of other people whose hearts and minds you don't fully know or discern.

On my part, I deal on all levels of Philosophy. Sometimes, that leads to questioning their Persoanl Axiology along with their religious dogma.
 
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This is where I would respectfully disagree. I would consider this ecumenism and or being liberal. But that’s just my belief. You do not have to agree with it or even the terms. It is simply my belief in light of what I know the Bible teaches. I believe we are to fellowship with only bible believers. This is a whole another topic of discussion with a whole bunch of verses that I would not rather not get into at this time. I am also working on a PDF write-up I need to get back to. So this thread discussion, while informative, is not something I plan to endlessly debate.

May God’s good ways be upon you today.
 
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I'm correcting you, yes. But not via reliance upon the Bible. I'm just appealing to your reason. Do I have to stoop to referencing the Bible in order to get you to think twice?
Where’s that teaching in the Bible?

Chapter and verse please.

Okay, did you ever at any point in your Christian life ever tell somebody what the Bible really says when they believed the wrong thing about it? If so, then what you did is no different than what I did. It falls under 2 Timothy 3:16-17.


Ok. If you think that, then stop calling folks "tares" when you don't know for sure they are.
Jesus says we will know them by their fruits.
But I strive not to just call somebody a tare outright or directly or anything.
Again, I strive to attack the belief and not make it about the individual.
People can change and or repent of wrong beliefs if they are convicted by the Word of God about such a thing.

On my part, I deal on all levels of Philosophy. Sometimes, that leads to questioning their Persoanl Axiology along with their religious dogma.
I believe the Bible and not Philosophy. The Bible is my primary guide and focus of my life to follow Jesus Christ.
 
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