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They knew not at that point what to repent of. One must first come to understand that we are raised by the blind to think backwards to the Kingdom. Once they went from 'self' to ways contrary to man, they knew of what He spoke.It’s not that I don’t disagree that the apostles could at times make mistakes. Surely we see examples of this in the Bible, for sure. The problem is that the show sends a message of a lack of repentance. The Chosen Jesus did not tell them to repent, and or neither did these sinning followers of Jesus seek forgiveness with the Lord over what they did. Therein lies one of the many problems in the show.
Your definition of what to repent of, please.But the key difference here is that we are now under the New Covenant and God commands all men everywhere to repent
Solomon and Samson are examples of God’s grace. But the key difference here is that we are now under the New Covenant and God commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30). Jesus said, repent or perish (Luke 13:3). I am also aware that God can forgive us a lot. Jesus said we are to forgiven 70 x 7 and this is a parallel of how God forgives (Matthew 18:21-22). Meaning, God will forgive us a lot. His mercy is abundant, but we also cannot justify sin without any repentance (seeking forgiveness with the LORD). We need to confess and forsake sin in order to have mercy according to Proverbs 28:13. The two disciples were drunks and no rebuke of such a sin and or no teaching that one desires forgiveness over such sins means that God is okay with his people sinning. Nothing could be further from the truth. Then again, I suppose that is why the show is popular. It fits this Laodicean age we are living in today.
Obviously, with weddings going on for days even Jesus had to step in when the tap went dry.There is a lot that happened that is not written during the time of the Apostles etc. They were only human. They probably did over indulge with wine.
Also, here is another example of the show affecting people wrongfully.
People in this thread and others defend a teaching from the book of Mormon.
3 Nephi 12–16
“I Am the Law,…”
(Book of Mormon)
”I am the Law of Moses”
(The Chosen series)
Really not much difference in these statements above here.
It is also not a coincidence seeing the executive producer is a Mormon, and they filmed in sacred Mormon land, etcetera.
This would have been less likely of folks trying to defend this Mormon teaching without the influence of this Chosen show. In other words, if they did not know about this show, and a Mormon wanted to convince these same people in this thread of this teaching in the Book of Mormon, there is a chance that they would be more likely to reject it. But seeing it is from one of their favorite TV shows that dazzles their senses and emotions,….. “All reason goes out the window.”
I used to watch Fringe, and Alias, and many other shows. But I gave them up for my Lord Jesus because of the sinful things and ideas that they pushed within them. This is why you will never understand if you continue down your current line of thinking. You have thrown in the morality towel and given into the world’s entertainment for your own enjoyment and maybe on the hope you may get some moral lesson if your lucky. Again, as mentioned before In this thread, I will bring up 1 John 2:15-17.
1 John 2:15-17
15 ”Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
To put it to you another way, what if the laws in this country got so bad that they condoned the abuse of children and they allowed some of these people to work on the 50th season of the Chosen and to openly promote child abuse on the show without any rebuke of such a sin? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say the following words? “Oh well, that’s the world we live in, and I am still going to watch it because I may get something good out of it and I am entertained by it.” I sure hope not. But see if you would be upset over that sin, then why do you give a pass for the sin of Mormonism? Surely you must understand God is upset at the false religion of Mormonism. So if God is upset by Mormonism because it leads people away from the real Jesus, then why associate your enjoyment with something that leads people away from Christ? It makes no sense. But you can eat out of the dumpster to find that prized piece of half eaten chicken leg if you like.
No. That’s false and incorrect. Stop justifying a sinful TV show that is not entirely based on Scripture. There is no biblical example you can show us in Scripture where a disciple or follower of Christ was in sin without either:They knew not at that point what to repent of. One must first come to understand that we are raised by the blind to think backwards to the Kingdom. Once they went from 'self' to ways contrary to man, they knew of what He spoke.
Make sure you have the Book of Mormon open to look for more future references. I am sure it is only a matter of time before we will see another one. Also, keep in mind the actor who plays Jesus has a huge Catholic following and he leads them into RCC practices because of his celebrity status because of the series. So as you act as if this Jesus is the real one, the actual actor is leading others into the practice of Catholicism when off screen. But hey, if one is Catholic, or ecumenical, I guess it does not matter.Yep, I'm going to just keep watching The Chosen ... and what's more, I'm going to do it with utter abandon and impunity.
This is what a Mormon said:Yep, I'm going to just keep watching The Chosen ... and what's more, I'm going to do it with utter abandon and impunity.
I will probably see a thousand more messages from people telling me I am a “cultist” and that I believe in a “different Jesus”. I will certainly have many more Latter-day Saints refuse to trust the show because the message is controlled by Evangelicals. But one thing can be certain, they can’t diminish MY relationship with Jesus. He has redeemed me. And it won’t take away MY love for Him or THE CHOSEN. Hate or love, I am offering the gifts God has given me to help THE CHOSEN reach a billion people worldwide.And if you’re still skeptical, I say the same thing I told my brother three years ago: “Just watch it”.
You are missing the point. We have a portrayal of Jesus and His followers not seeking forgiveness of God over their sin of drunkenness. Jesus did not rebuke them, and neither do we see them seeking forgiveness of the LORD. This is what needed to happen if the show was an accurate portrayal of even the basic essence of principles of Scripture. But it doesn’t even get that right because it is not really entirely based on the principles of the Bible. The show is presenting another Jesus with false messages.There is a lot that happened that is not written during the time of the Apostles etc. They were only human. They probably did over indulge with wine.
What Jesus said or did if He witnessed those times is unknown.
I am sure that, as He is all loving and merciful, He would have been extremely kind and forth coming with sound advice etc to His followers.
To learn about my definition of repentance, check out this CF thread I created here:Your definition of what to repent of, please.
You are going off your own thoughts. Proverbs 14:12 says, “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” In short, you have no biblical example anywhere in the New Testament of an apostle sinning without Jesus rebuking them and or without that apostle seeking forgiveness with the LORD.BTW you don't train Apostles by saying NO! Bad Apostle. Like the rest of us we learn we are backwards then God leads us in our efforts to change. It is hard to overcome decades of what one assumes is natural behaviour.
But this is just mindless talk on your part. You are not presenting any Scripture to prove your case at all. This is because you cannot do so because there is no such Bible verse that aligns with your false thinking here. Se my recent post to you (Post #236). I post a verse that refutes this false thinking.Hardly. We are all in the same boat as they were
Uh, to call somebody to repentance is to tell them to repent. There is no other way to interpret that. Of course I am sure you don’t like this verse and so you are attempting to disregard it.He called them, He didn't verbally beat them into submission.
Jesus actually rebukes His disciples in Scripture if they did things He felt were wrong.He called them, He didn't verbally beat them into submission.
I speak of that all the time in my posts.. but you go ahead and find fault in tv and i'll stick to pointing out how Gentile Christianity fell to the wayside.Uh, to call somebody to repentance is to tell them to repent. There is no other way to interpret that.
The show is at fault for having Jesus not rebuke their sin of drunkenness because as I said Jesus called sinners to repentance as I just mentioned to you. To call sinners to repentance means to “tell them to repent.” Do you remember in Luke 13:3 where Jesus basically says, “repent or perish” to others? This is an example of the call to repentance. So again, the Chosen is unbiblical and will lead people to think they don’t have to repent when they are in sin. This is false and wrong and will lead many astray.I speak of that all the time in my posts.. but you go ahead and find fault in tv and i'll stick to pointing out how Gentile Christianity fell to the wayside.
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